Man, it’s almost like pushing everyone into poverty in the pursuit of infinite growth had some long-term consequences.
Closing the Roastery? I guess they can get fully fucked then, that was the only place around herethey were doing something unique. There’s a million places to get coffee around Seattle and they all sell pumpkin spice lattes.
Closing the roastery literally makes no sense
There’s already not that many tourist attractions in Seattle itself, the roastery is probably one of the few, and because of that it gets free foot traffic
In the sense that Starbucks aren’t coffee shops they’re investment portfolios, it probably does
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I don’t understand the appeal of Starbucks. Their products are prohibitively expensive and aren’t even very good. It’s like the McDonald’s of coffee.
Socially acceptable/normalized morning milkshake addiction.
Thats the appeal of Starbucks.
They sell coffee flavored milkshakes.
And both sugar and caffeine are addictive.
In my city, we have hundreds of coffee shops. Which is good.
But they’re all priced like Starbucks. Which is bad.
Taste is subjective. Personally, I decided to stop getting Starbucks along with as many other US companies as I can manage, but before that I enjoyed them, so did my partner.
More like the Dairy Queen of coffee. Basically desserts with a little coffee flavoring. Order a simple espresso and they break down in tears.
Luckin will eat out their soft underbelly in 6 months.
Yep.
Try ordering a dirty chai, you’ll probably just get a coffee and a chai latte poured together.
The appeal is that it’s like the McDonald’s of coffee. Consistent, familiar, available, affordabl ish ( I know their prices aren’t good but most high end local places will charge a lot too). If you don’t understand McDonald’s then what about pop music? All appealing to the middle of the bell curve. If you are reading Lemmy instead of reddit, its less likely that you tend to favor the middle of the bell curve on other things as well.
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Someone likes sugar …
Forgive me … for I am an engineer and we tend to be obnoxiously objective … but coffee is coffee … I tend to just make my own, and on a pinch. I prefer gas station’s for the convenience
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Starbucks has WAY more caffeine than most takeout coffee.
It messes with your gut probably because you’re getting 200-300 mg of caffeine when you’re expecting 100-150
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A big part of it is that they’ll let you have any weird combination you want. They’ve got a ton of syrups, different milks, cream, sweet creams, different roasts, different shots, a bunch of stuff and you can get it any which way. If you go to almost any other mainstream coffee place you won’t have nearly as many options and you probably can’t combine them in any way imaginable. I have a few friends who work at Starbucks and they’ve shown me some crazy complicated drink orders they’ve had to do before.
Now I don’t think those crazy combinations taste any good, I’ve tried some before that friends have liked or that my barista friends have given me as a taste, but if you’re someone who likes sweet drinks I could see the appeal. For what it’s worth, a vast majority of their consumer base (at least that I’ve seen and heard) are the exact stereotype.
Exactly. Crap for the masses. Worked for McDonalds.
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Is not being able to afford coffee a good indicator of a looming recession?
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Closing unionized stores, eh? I’m sure that’s a total coincidence.
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Billionaires are your enemy.
For #1 it’s not coffee, it’s fancy coffee. You can get a basic cup of coffee at Dunkin’ donuts or McDonald’s or whatnot for a buck or two. Starbucks you end up with the venti half caff oat milk pumpkin spice latte with three pumps extra foam no drizzle or some similar thing that takes 10+ words to order, and it ends up being $7-$8ish. Add a pastry or sandwich and you’re at $10-$15.
When the belt gets squeezed, that goes away in favor of the $2 Dunkin coffee and 99c donut.Re 1, probably, but Starbucks isn’t just “coffee”, it’s like a luxury brand of coffee, lol.
When people can’t afford even the basic stuff, then I’d consider it an indicator.
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Drinking Starbucks is masochism and Howard Schultz is a piece of shit
Oh no! Anyway…
Stop going there, they don’t treat employees right.
A lot of people have, hence the closures.
Probably about the union stores.
Overpriced, absurd wait lines and anti-union all for a subpar product so full of sugar it could kill a diabetic. No thanks I can find better coffee at a gas station
Good. They openly support Charlie Kirk and his rhetoric. Fuck those boot licking anti union fascists
… They’re purposefully downsizing union stores more than others. They’re using downsizing as an excuse to union bust.
Recession even hit the white girls with daddy’s credit card.
Yeah economies fine everyone because you know how quickly americans skip coffee due to financial concerns.
A new Golden age for America!
They did some odd stuff around here. Went too heavily into some markets to kill out the small coffee chains. Then they closed the stores that were too close together to actually be profitable. Which then left a hole in the market, which much smaller (physically & staffwise) coffee shops then sprang up to fill.
Unfortunately they went franchise pretty fast - there are developers who look for small shops like this they can quickly replicate and then sell, making the owner rich, and the rest of us suckers. It’s why chains pop up, quiet chains, so fast these days.
