Im all about hypercuriosity.
In my case: hypercuriosity -> hyperfixiation -> hypercuriosity -> hyperfixiation.
I also want to add the danger of taking “facts” at face value. I have ADD as do my kids. They are inundated with information I never was and I have to debunk a lot of shit they see online because of the source (manosphere shit is everywhere). Seriously it’s an absolute fire hose of bullshit online if you don’t know how to filter content.
Yes. I try to teach my kids critical thinking as much as possible. It’ll probably be the most important skill in life going forward.
I feel like so many societal problems can be understood better from the angle of basically everyone experiencing chronic information overload. It appears that you’re suggesting that people with ADHD/ADD are more vulnerable to this, and I agree. I imagine that in a few years, we’ll see research verifying this, and everyone with ADHD/ADD will go “no duh”.
In a perfect world a good government would be heavily regulating social media to prevent disinformation.
I continue to say when I was a kid you could all go to the local bar and there was Dale drunk going on about his insane shit and we could all ignore it. Now Dale is online with all the other Dales and they’re crazy but they’re not dumb and they found out how to weaponize their insanity.
Sigh.
Best we can do is educate our kids my daughter has friends who have anti-vax parents. Mine are not and I do my best to educate other kids when here. I don’t undercut their parents. I simply try to provide them with the facts and the hope is, the long game they will get smart.
My curiosity absolutely does not disappear when I’m medicated! I’d rather say that it gets refined and sharpened such that I can better filter out noisey ideas that irrelevant and focus on my curiosity and creativity such that I can actually execute on the ideas I have.
Our queen
I need to watch this movie again
Alas, I have the ‘nothing at all gives me dopamine’ ADHD. I thought it was just depression for years, but turns out it was ADHD. I struggle to see any benefits that come from my condition.
ADHD can correlate with depression. You still need to treat the depression though. Untreated depression will indeed blind you to anything positive about anything.
Yup, it‘s probably that. In a societal vacuum, the curiosity would exist, but the daily struggle and resulting depression overshadows it.
(Source: Been through it, currently recovering.)
Same, was speaking from experience as well. I consider myself recovered from the depression now, but it was definitely something I needed to proactively address.
“When you look at the way people with ADHD learn, and especially if they are hypercurious, they start reading something and they’re like, ‘Ooh what is that? I want to learn about this. What is that? Does it connect to that?’ It looks a lot more like a messy mind map rather than a straight [line],” Le Cunff says. “The problem is when there’s no space for exploration.”
I cannot express to you how much this captures my experience reading. It can sometimes take days for me to get past a page when I’m constantly stopping to look up other things a passage made me think of or write down ideas and questions.
I feel this too when I play video games. I like to open every box, go through every door, listen to all the recordings etc. When I play coop with my husband it drives him a bit nuts when he wants to focus on a specific quest and I’m exploring.
Love this! I can start a Wikipedia page on something to do with particle physics, and 300 pages of related topics later, I can finally recurse to the original page and… ah, got it! Cool!
Oh yes and on games I often pause them to look up some random question like which skill is the best to inherit or something. I do soo much research on games I play despite my best intentions to just be in the moment.
I think this is why certain games very much overwhelm and overstimulate me. Luckily it’s a time sink that I don’t really need to have in my life anyways, beyond random occasions when I find something that pulls me in.
IME, the “story” is what happens between my deep-dives from the railing of the baked-in plot-ship. 🤣
I am right there with you in games. I’ve been playing Enshrouded with my partner and some friends recently, and we’ve gotten into arguments on continuing the quest, versus exploring, versus building lol
It’s very interesting to me to see how other people can just walk past something without looking into it, or, even more foreign to me, remember it, and come back later. I, personally, have to completely explore an area outright the first time, because I know I will not be interested in going back through it in the future
Duh.
You think a behavior that was handled in humanity for thousands of years would be fully disadvantageous or perhaps just we are letting our world be dominated by what a few think it should look like?
It may not fit into the current world but that is more a statement on it than us.It’s like my boss says
“Just shut up and do your job”
Right now I am into mushrooms but that doesn’t pay the bills
Yeah i wish it was easier to get in and out of jobs. I would open a really awesome popcorn shop i think but i cant risk the bills.
But thats the flaw of our current society that we cant explore how we can help make the world a little more full instead of utilitarian.
I read the article, but I don’t understand how hypercuriosity is a benefit. It’s more annoying than anything, because I can’t do anything practical with it.
It‘s a benefit for society. Some people being weird and trying new ways to improve tasks are eventually successful. Think caveman constantly rolling down things a hill and inventing the wheel.
I mean it’s a “water is wet” kind of “discovery” for anyone who has or understands ADHD, but it’s nice to see it spelled out in an accessible way for laymen. Many types of neurodivergence have advantages, it’s just that those advantages are not as impactful as the disadvantages because they the disadvantages break societal norms. Just like a person in a wheelchair breaks the societal norm of stairs. Unless accommodations are made, they disabled person is unable to participate in society and thus they are unable to use or sometimes even show their advantages.
I mean, downhill I guess 🤷
It doesn’t help that we have a fundamentally broken society to begin with.
TBF, we’re the ones who’ve always known “water” isn’t “wet”, it does the wettening. 🤷🏼♂️
I mean, yeah, but it’s the idiom for that and is why I put it in quotes. Not all idioms make logical sense.
The fact remains.
FYI, many modern idioms are bullshit shadows of their original phrasing, (eg. “Blood is thicker…”, “Great minds…”, “Birds of a feather…”, etc.) and arguing that they’re fine as-is smacks more of anti-intellectualism (if not outright laziness) than anything meaningful. 🙇🏼♂️
But that’s how language works. Things mean what the majority of people say they mean. Otherwise, everyone would still be using the n word because it wouldn’t have a negative meaning. It’s about communication, not absolute logic.
Just because the horizon exists doesn’t mean every path toward it is equal in value. Logical fallacy aside, you seem to agree that improvement as a species is a worthy goal, and maybe even a personal obligation to promote such.
Language works a lot of ways. Don’t let laziness and cognitive ambivalence hold the reins of linguistic morphology.
in what way is calling water wet laziness or cognitive ambivalence? it’s not like wetness is something that just exists in the world prior to our construction of it
I’m sorry, did you just imply that wetness depends on observation to exist?
Nope I don’t agree. Language has meaning to people, and has no obligation to past meanings or logic. If it did then we wouldn’t have been able to reclaim the use of the word gay which has changed meanings multiple times just in my lifetime.
Oh, please, say more. 😶
at least for blood is thicker the “full version” is actually most likely newer than the one you’re complaining about. it’s almost as though people use language to say what they want to say. nothing anti-intellectual about that
bad b8
You don’t “know” shit, you just made that up to feel smart. Water as a substance is fucking wet, and before you challenge me you should know that we both have the same disorder.
Oh, sweetie. Aw. You’re way ahead of me there. Much wow. Move along, please.
lmfao if you took this seriously I’m sorry for you but also gfy
You dance? That backpedal looks practiced.
But also, since you’ve been so pleasant and asked so nicely,
A single molecule of water is not wet but as soon as more than one molecule is present the water is then wet. If there are a substantial number of molecules, then you have the substances that we know as water and ice.
The molecules themselves also are not solid or liquid, that has to do with the behavior of the molecules in dimensional space. At the level of everyday language, we are talking about substances, and generally when we refer to water we are talking about it as a liquid substance.
Most liquid substances you could easily mix with water are themselves water-based and therefore would be totally dried up into a powder or perhaps a jelly without their water content. To add water is to make them wet, and then they exist as a wet incorporated substance. In fact, they could not dry up if they were not wet in the first place; to become dry is to transition away from the state of being wet.
You know what else dries up? Water.
I stand by what I said? Just letting you know that I did so in a playful manner. Go troll somewhere else pls thx.
You know the saying: Hypercuriosity hyperkilled the hypercat.
hyperthe*
Turns out safety regulations are written in our blood
I feel, for me at least, it’s more than just curiosity. Bottom up thinking makes you obsessively want to learn the deeper truth so you can build more generalized knowledge. For example, a neurotical student learning the Pythagorean theorem would simply memorize the formula which is easy and straightforward. Maybe if they’re curious enough they’d try to understand why it works. But for a bottom up thinker, memorizing the formula as a floating piece of knowledge is difficult. So they need to have a deeper understanding of the underlying principles in order to “ground” that knowledge.
My pet theory is that people with ADHD have to rely more on bottom up thinking to compensate for their weaker working memory. Having a deeper understanding of a subject makes things easier to remember and reason about. Kind of like how it’s easier to remember a phone number if you look for patterns within it. This “hypercuriosity” is an advantage in the same sense as wheelchair users have the advantage of having stronger arms.
These two share curiosity in common.
PFFT advantage of asking too many questions and pissing off all the normals? Yup, got it.
I’m offended by the attention deficit and the disorder part. I don’t have a deficit, I have an abundance of attention, it’s just not linear. I have parallel attention, not serial. In my close circle I’m the guy people often go for answers, because I often have them, albeit often somewhat superficial, because it’s near impossible to go deep in any subject, unless hyperfocus kicks in.
I feel seen lmao
In ways you’re not even aware of, but yes. 🖖🏼
So if you ever wonder who it was that figured out you can eat something weird way back in history, sounds like it was probably someone with ADHD lol
