Hey y’all. I’ve been testing a bunch of Note taking solutions and nothing seems to check off what I want and need.

I want a simple interface (both for list view and note editor/view), preferably similar to Google Keep, but a regular list is fine as well.

Key features:

A. being able to drag and drop re-order checkbox lists.

e.g.

  • [ ] item 1
  • [ ] item 2
  • [x] item 4
  • [x] item 3

I’d like to be able to just drag and drop the above to sort things correctly.

B. E2EE at rest.

C. CTRL+F inside the note view/edit!!

Honestly, the only functionality I truly want is A. But most of the solutions I found are either proprietary or can’t do it.

Self hosted options I’ve tried:

  • Joplin (can’t do A; UX is not great)
  • Standard notes (A + C is gated by their self hosted premium subscription; I don’t mind paying for my apps, but the prices are ridiculous)
  • Silverbullet.md (can’t do A)
  • Quillpad (very similar to Google Keep and can do A, but has terrible file syncing, not E2EE)

Notesnook looks almost as insane as Standard Notes to self host (mimicing AWS stack locally is nuts). Has anyone tried Notesnook yet? I don’t want to spend another afternoon setting something heavy up only to find that the feature I want is gated by a heavy $.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

EDIT: Woops! I am looking to use the notes app on both Android and Web/Desktop Linux. Preferably an open source solution.

  • orosus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    3 个月前

    I use Logseq with ToDoList plugin to handle task list. Logseq is similar to obsidian but open-source. And to syncronize notes among devices, I use syncthing. No need to selfhost.

    • SayCyberOnceMore@feddit.ukEnglish
      2·
      3 个月前

      +1 on all of this.

      Logseq basically saved my mind when I took on a new job where I needed to take a lot of notes quickly, easily and keep track of all the ToDos.

      Syncthing keeps my laptop and phone in sync (with my NAS) so I can start notes on my laptop and then finish on my phone.

      You can definitely reorder checkboxes, but on Android it’s still not quite a smooth experience, but it’s ok.

  • Meron35@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    3 个月前

    Not sure of your specific needs, but I feel that self hosting (i.e. setting up a proper server) is unnecessary. Just pick a local first program and use it with syncthing.

    The usual trio (which may be overkill) are Obsidian (admittedly not open source), Trillium, and logseq.

  • iopq@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    3 个月前

    What I want is being able to hand draw something quickly in my notes, what’s the app that has text and drawings?

    • quaff@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      1·
      3 个月前

      I already use Tasks.org :) But that’s for specific things.

      I like writing list of things. Like groceries, and as I write them, I tend to re-organize them. Having the ability to re-order the items easily helps me tremendously.

      Tasks.org can’t fill that note aspect. Let alone re-ordering a task.

      • conrad82@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        3 个月前

        I see 🙂

        I used emacs org-mode before. Can do a lot of stuff on PC, but mobile experience was lacking. And learning curve is crazy

        I am currently testing out logseq + syncthing. I don’t reorder things much anymore though

        Good luck!

  • daytonah@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2·
    3 个月前

    Obsidian and good ol’ paper and pen. (or epaper). The paper I use is on bullet jpurnal style.

    • quaff@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      2·
      3 个月前

      Whoa. This actually works pretty close. Although, I am not seeing the ability to drag and drop re-order list items. Which is the big feature I want and need.

      I am seeing in their github issues that CKEditor doesn’t support it. Thanks for the suggestion though!

      • Lfrith@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        2 个月前

        If there is a kanban extension or something of the sort you might get the drag and drop list you want.

        There is another Google Keep like app called NotallyX. Can even import in your Google keep backups. You can set up password protected auto backups with the app.

        As for syncing syncthing as others have mentioned would be the best solution that would let you be able to use whatever you choose to go with.

  • k4j8@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    3 个月前

    Have you considered Kanban apps? All of them should support A+C. I’ve used Wekan and Kanboard. Hope this helps your searching!

  • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    3 个月前

    I spent several years looking for the perfect selfhosted solution to this, but ultimately I realized an offline solution was just going to be better. So I started using Obsidian which is as simple or complex as you want with no paywall.

    Some of the self hosted solutions I’ve tried were:

  • Eager Eagle@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    3 个月前

    it might be worth watching this PR for memos, which adds encryption at rest. I can’t vouch for it, as I didn’t read the code but I do use memos and might consider this if it’s merged.

    https://github.com/usememos/memos/pull/5130

    This is not E2EE, but I don’t think E2EE is that important if you’re hosting your own data. And clients can use TLS for encryption in transit.

  • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    3·
    3 个月前

    Others have mentioned Syncthing as a sync solution. I’d like to add a couple points:

    Syncthing can work fine even for solutions that are intended to use their own sync, provided it’s a single-user setup. You’re not likely to make simultaneous changes on 2 devices, so collisions are unlikely.

    Also for using Syncthing, I recommend Syncthing-Fork for Android - it moves sync conditions into the folder/job rather than global. Very useful when you have jobs you want always syncing, and jobs you want to only sync on wifi and power.

    If using iOS there’s an ST client called Möbius Sync ($5), developed by a company the financially supports Syncthing.

    For Windows, get SyncTrayzor - it makes running and managing ST easier.

  • tal@olio.cafeEnglish
    81·
    3 个月前

    You might want to list the platform you want to use it on. I’m assuming that you’re wanting to access this on a smartphone of some sort?

    • quaff@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      7·
      3 个月前

      Ah good point. I edited my post! Android and Web (nice to have is desktop Linux support). Thank you!