Archive article: https://archive.is/EfZkV “We don’t have a military full of Nordic pagans,” he said. “No more beards, long hair, superficial individual expression,” he added. “We’re going to cut our hair, shave our beards, and adhere to standards.”

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    So, I thought this was going to be some secret strategy briefing heralding some awful new global project. Instead it’s a couple little boys peacocking around bragging about how masculine they are to a captive audience.

    I wonder how the generals and admirals feel about being pons in this loser’s bruised ego theater?

    The least cool thing a person can do is brag about how cool they are. Same thing applies to masculinity. When you preform like this, you’re expressing how weak, afraid, unsure and incapable you are. That’s the maga cultural movement in a nutshell.

    Fuck every single person in civilization leadership at this moment.

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      I wonder if the public version of this pageantry is cover for the secret meeting where he singles out leaders for not being loyal enough or where they plan to coup … antifa?

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        Eh, after that public humiliation of the leadership, I am certain that any secret meeting won’t remain a secret for much longer.

        A talk like that makes you no friends.

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      It’s kind of a relief in a way, of all the ways “fascists war department leader calls all the generals home suddenly for a meeting” could go, raving about aesthetics is probably one of the least immediately dangerous for everyone else.

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      Instead it’s a couple little boys peacocking around bragging about how masculine they are to a captive audience.

      Uhm, well there was a lot of that stuff, but Hegseth spoke for like 45 minutes and inbetween the usual incoherent rambling and machismo, and the book plug [!], there were some actual important announcements thrown in. Internal investigations is to be gutted, records of wrongdoing will be expunged, “DEI” purges will continue, and a whole lot of “you can do whatever the fuck you want now, we will back you” messaging. This was a rallying cry to the fascists in the audience, and I fear there is a subset that will act on it.

      Haven’t made it through the entirety of Trumps speech yet, but most of the first ~20 minutes have been his usual meandering.

      Edit 1: Heh, nice Freudian slip a bit later into Trumps speech:

      That’s why I chose ‘razin’ Caine. He’s fantastic, by the way. I hope you all agree. If anybody disagrees, could I please have your hand? Who disappears that ‘razin’ Caine is no good? Just raise your hand. *inhales* I don’t see any hands raised.

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    This guy reminds me of every dick-less wonder that issues “return to office” orders just so they can walk around and micromanage people.

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    Trump took the stage after him, noting that: “I’ve never walked into a room so silent before.”

    The president, who famously avoided the military draft multiple time, then gave a far more subdued address, talking about everything from Joe Biden’s autopen, his love of the word “tariffs”, and the threat of nuclear weapons.

    “I call it the N word. There are two N words and you can’t use either of them,” Trump said to an awkwardly silent audience.

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      “I call it the N word. There are two N words and you cant use either of them” Trump said to an awkwardly silent audience

      This timeline has truly jumped the shark. Like on the one hand we are so fucked, but on the other hand reality has become something straight off the cutting room floor of a mockumentary series

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        That’ll happen when your “Predisent” is a demented rapist fraud with face paint and unfortunate tendencies toward sociopathy.

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    OMG! The music after his speech but before trumps. LOL. Its like kinda military music but the kind they use for circuses to. OH OH OH. Its doing the monty python theme. I think this is intentional from either the players or the sound guys.

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      The Monty Python theme is a Sousa march called Liberty Bell. I bet someone ran it past him & he said great, because he’s never watched the show and has no idea. That is hilarious.

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        Yeah I feel like he would be all giddy with the clown music. its like that pony ride he got from the brits.

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    I feel like the chance of a military coup in the USA just went up 1000%. I’m sure there’s plenty of MAGAs in that military but there’s gotta be a lot who take their oath and tradition very seriously.

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      Since you mention it, by summoning leadership to the pentagon he just gave them plausible deniability for being in the same place at the same time, without being monitored (e.g. off base). If you wanted to jump-start a coup, that’s a helluva way to do it.

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      I really hope the people in that room know better than to allow this to continue. They should have couped him right there.

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      If they did they would already be doing something. There’s a line in that oath about protecting from domestic threats.

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        If they are doing something (and I’m confident that someone is. Likely quite a few of them), then we won’t know until they put the plan into action. That information leaking right now would be disastrous.

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    Hegseth added the Pentagon would review its definition of “toxic leadership, bullying and hazing”, so that the military’s leadership could enforce its standards “without fear of retribution or second guessing”. He also said that military personnel “should not pay for serious mistakes for your entire career”, and that some infractions would be removed from service records.

    Sounds like interesting times ahead.

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    No beards on generals? Must be the cope from having this handsome gentleman beat their asses all the way to Dixie and back! U.S. Grant

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      Tsar Peter the Great banned beards in the Russian military and civil service.

      This is where this wanker got it from.

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    What I heard is hegseth promises to have his son sign up on his 17th birthday as frontline infantry marine. Thats what I heard. Anyone else hear that? Im pretty sure that is what he said. His kid is 15 so should be ripe before trump term ends. Military will be in the borders so can pick him right up when ready. Oh also he does not want the head of the us military to be fat or out of shape and wants to get rid of the head of the military that are fat and out of shape. I can really get behind that. Lets get rid of him.

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    I’m convinced that the real purpose of this meeting was to gauge the willingness of top military officers to support a coup. I would be surprised if their private conversations in response to this spectacle were not spied on.

    Fortunately, at least in public appearance, they don’t seem thrilled with this administration.

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      I think you’re crediting them with more foresight, shrewdness and competency than has ever been demonstrated by this admin.

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        Trump and Hegseth are not the sharpest tools in the shed, for sure, but they’re also not the ones really making decisions. Stephen Miller is possibly in charge? JD Vance’s vassalage to dystopian surveillance tech titan Peter Thiel is another influence channel.

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          That’s a fair point about where the buck ultimately stops, but I’m not sure the “AI regulations bring about the anti-christ” guy is the Lex Luthor he wants us to believe he is either.

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    hundreds of senior officers most of which are probably keenly aware that America will possibly be at war with China in the next 5 years, and with Russia uncomfortably sooner. And this cokehead carted them all to Virginia basically just to do hyper conservative virtue signaling like it was an election campaign.

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    This is a good read and its more than just beards. All right men we are going to be running this department of war the way jesus would…:

    “But over 45 minutes, a very animated Hegseth railed against what he called “stupid rules of engagement” in the military, cited Jesus, talked up his book, and repeated a litany of talking points.”

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      Wait, what was that about “stupid rules of engagement”? He and Trump want them changed to allow full fire on US civilians, don’t they? Fuck this shit.

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        They need to tear shit up. Regardless if its the enemy or friendly fire or civilians. Whats important is the violence, not the objective. People need to be afraid. The enemy, our friends, our citizens, even our military. We. All of us. NEED to be pissing ourselves.

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        OMG! Im listening to it and he is going on about lowered requirements like its dei and I know people who have been in the military. What lowers requirements is needs. Guy gained weight till they kicked him out. Would not have worked during war time. They have been big on drone operators and that has done a lot because they want the best person to pilot the drone not look good doing it. Its like a right leaning plan for last millenium.