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After: ~1,337 days, 271 releases, 78,000 stars on GitHub, 1,558 contributors, 31,500 members on Discord, 36,000 members on Reddit, 68 languages on Weblate, Surviving the controversial announcement about joining FUTO, Having overwhelming success and support from the community with the product keys model, Launching the Merch store, Attending our first FOSDEM, …and before the release of GTA VI We are thrilled to announce the stable release of Immich! 🎉
I’m really excited about such a large project adopting semver! I never got the trend for software without a need for rapid release cycles adopting purely time-based version numbers.
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How does this compare with Ente?
All photos in Ente are E2EE — only client devices can decrypt it. Immich doesn’t have any encryption thus allowing anyone who manages the server to view your photos as they are. Immich is fully self-hosted while with Ente you have an option for paying Ente or self-host. I honestly prefer Immich because the features outweigh the encryption as I own the server myself and Ente is a bit complicated to setup — I think you even have to deploy the entire Ente Ecosystem Stack.
I just pay for ente to host for me so I like the E2EE. If I self hosted I would consider Immich with media stored in an encrypted zfs volume
I used to pay for Ente as well but then I tried Immich & IMO is just so much better. It is THE Google Photos alternative with almost all the features. And as you said, you can get encryption with LUKSing your drive or partitions. I have automated my backups so I am pretty much at ease especially after the stable release.
That’s great, do you put it behind a reverse proxy?
Yep. Behind Nginx Proxy Manager and for external access, I use Pangolin on VPS to reverse tunnel to my Home.
“High performance self-hosted photo and video management solution.”
1,337 days
🫡
Leet
And before GTA VI.
Love it. Lol.
Kudos! 🥳
I was planning on starting to host my own Immich server for my family. Like I did for other futo projects, I paid, even if there is no technical reason to. Does anyone know what the “sever key”/“client key” thing is? I’m imagining that a client key is what goes in the immich android app, and a server key is what goes in ther server admin console?
The thing is that if I want to be considered as someone who uses FOSS ethically - and I’m hosting for my family - I don’t want each of them to purchase a client key… In my eyes - purchasing a server key in that price should at least give me some leeway, and the small number of clients I plan on supporting would not be considered unlicensed…
It does https://immich.app/blog/immich-product-keys
But as far as I understand the key doesn’t really go anywhere, it’s just a fancy way to suggest a donation. (And there’s nothing unethical about using FOSS without paying or contributing back in any way)
Only missing the workflows for my family to adopt it!
Does Immich still require you to store all user photos into the same central directory?
I can’t move my family from Synology’s offering until I can be sure each users photos will be backed up to their own accessible drive.
I think they’re organized into individual user directories (in one location), so could probably set up a directory backup per user to their own device if so desired.
Is external libraries maybe what you’re looking for?
This is how I do it. I don’t let it move my files.
Each user has a subdirectory, I dont see a reason you couldn’t symlink them so they actually reside on different drives.
I saw a Linux program that could let you setup a virtual mount with different rules for where each folder actually physically pointed to - like symlinks but with much more customisation. You might be able to use that to setup Immich to save different users to different drives
You can store uploads on a different drive if you want also.
Yahoo! Congrats to the Immich teams and developers!
Ooh this is great news! I guess it was both an entertaining experience and a chore at the same time bumping the server version every once in a while to keep the mobile app functioning.
Huge props to the team, it’s one of the best pieces of software I’ve used in quite some time.
Why are their official communities on Reddit and Discord? Why not a Mastodon or Lemmy community?
A couple of questions for those who have used it. Does it back up the video snippet portion of the live photos? Does it have webdav support so I can backup to pcloud? Can it backup to multiple places, like my local harddisk and the pcloud storage?
Does it back up the video snippet portion of the live photos?
Yeah it works great for live photos I take with my Pixel. Should work for iOS ones too.
I can confirm it works for iOS ones, and they play on non-iOS devices as well
Don’t think it has WebDAV support but you can use rsync to back up to pcloud. That’s how I handle it.
Also, by default when you upload files to Immich it creates it’s own directory structure but they have Storage Templates you can enable/customize to make it more human readable so the backups are more useful if looking at them without Immich.
Another option of you want more control over the directories themselves is External Libraries… but I don’t believe uploading works with them, so you’d have to manually manage them outside of Immich (which kind of defeats the purpose IMO)
I really like where immich is headed. Bought a license last week and finally deleted Google Photos.
You mean you deleted App-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named?
Edit: I’m just using the same terminology they use in their docs…
Hopefully they improved face tagging. I can’t work out how to add a new person’s name.
On the phone app you go to Library -> People -> “Add a name” at the top.
The iOS app on my phone doesn’t have that option.
Still on container crutches?
Ok grandpa let’s get you to bed
We aim to introduce additional paid services (not paywalled features, as we will never implement paywalled features), which will help support the project and that enhance self-hosting, making it easier and more reliable. First among the many services already planned is an end-to-end encrypted, off-site backup and restore feature, built directly into Immich. This will enable a buddy backup feature as well.
I love this.
Free features, but offering actual useful services for self-hosters (encrypted cloud backup). Great business model for a project like this.
What is the difference between a paid service and a paywalled service in this case?
If you don’t want to pay Immich for backups, you can take care of off-site backups yourself using tools like rclone to your hard drive or any off-site storage of your choice. A paywall here would be not allowing offsite backups at all unless you pay Immich.
I sync with syncthing to an 8tb hard drive at work. Then backblaze that ish.
A paid service is something that is going to have running costs on the side of the provider. E.g. the cloud backup means they need to buy/rent storage space. If they were to do something like a service for remote machine-learning (for people that do not have the hardware to properly do that) that would be a running cost of renting gpu-time.
A paywall is a feature that would work perfectly fine without any external factors, but its blocked because you didn’t pay.
Some nuance is needed of course. Often a paid service could be self-hosted (thats why I love being able to self-host the machine learning in immich, with a different design choice that could’ve totally been a paid service).
Having their own flagship instance, like Ente, would go a long way toward providing funding. I bet Ente is making a whole lot more money.
They said they will do that in a FUTO video I can’t find right now.
Cool!
Meanwhile you can check out https://pixelunion.eu/
Oh that’s cool too but I was talking about supporting the project.
Yeah I know, I agree as well. I was just sharing a curiosity as they are already offering a managed immich service.
I would say if you want a managed option on someone else’s server it should be encrypted (a la Ente).
It sounds great, but Immich wouldn’t be the first to go back on such promises when it becomes convenient. Hopefully thanks to funding via FUTO it might not ever happen, but who knows. Appreciate they write it out, but it is not like that is legally binding.
Home assistant is still clean years after introducing nabu casa
Yeah this sort of bitwarden / nextcloud funding model is great IMO.
