Do you think people who illegal street race are ‘bad people’?
I don’t like framing things in terms of doing a bad thing = being a bad person.
But they are undoubtedly doing a bad thing, street racing endangers bystanders and can get people seriously hurt or even killed.
Eh.
There’s levels of “bad thing”. Stealing a cookie might be a bad thing, but it’s mostly harmless. Stealing, I dunno, someone’s life saving medication…? Probably makes the thief a bad person.
(If some one were to steal, I dunno, putin’s meds, I don’t think anyone here would be particularly inclined to accuse them, but, details.)
Yeah. I don’t know how they are on balance, but I know 100℅ it’s a bad action.
Unless we’re talking about doing doughnuts at traffic lights in ATL, that seems kinda cool. But it is not racing so the initial premise holds.
There’s so little actual street racing that I’m not convinced OP is actually asking about racing. Speeding, weaving, running lights, playing in traffic, stunting motorcycles, sliding cars, donuts, burnouts, takeovers, launches, pulls, hits, runs, and digs can all be variably reckless events that the gen pop will call “racing”. Donuts/burnouts have plenty of crash videos where they damage property. Mustangs eat crowds, chargers smack stopped cars, infinitis hit other takeover kids.
I don’t like framing things in terms of doing a bad thing = being a bad person.
premeditatedly doing bad thing = bad person
I’ve had Windows machines since Windows 3.1, when it was time to start looking at buying a new machine to run Windows 11 I noped once I saw the Ads etc. etc.
This year I bought a Mac for the first time.
Wrong thread, duder.
They are about the worst you can get in a car. For me, they are right next to those terrorist who drive into groups of people in order to kill them: they have no respect for other peoples lives.
Road laws exist to make driving predictable. Breaking those laws makes you unpredictable, and thus a danger. If you want to race, find a track.
This is an aspect of driving that people don’t get. It doesn’t necessarily matter WHAT the laws are–there are so many ways to drive all around the world. What matters is that everyone follows the same ones so that they know what to expect from others. If people routinely ignore one law in a region and that’s part of the expectation, then everyone is just fine. It’s that one person who doesn’t follow the norms that is dangerous.
They will never go to a track. There are track days but that’s not racing. You can’t actually take your slammed 2002 Honda civic with the TEMU spoilers to race. Races are within controlled series with safety and technical requirements, as well as minimal driver training.
Uh…
You and I have visited very different speedways.
Where I come from, if the engine turns over, it is race eligible.
And if the engine doesn’t turn over, there’s a cool giant fire breathing robot we can still feed the car to.
They’re selfish cunts.
Street racing i have no opinion about but street crashing i am against
In a word, mostly, yes.
They are endangering themselves and everyone around them.
Go to a race track on a track day. Or organize one.
Y’all are assholes who do asshole things.
Seriously why do y’all do this? You can rent time on tracks for cheap!
There is nothing cheap about track days unless you mean drag racing. And even still, you know most people’s cars won’t pass tech inspection.
The one held in my city is pretty reasonable. And if they’re not passing inspections to race on a track then they shouldn’t be racing on the street either.
Have you seen the average car on the road? There’s plenty of people driving cars in such disrepair they’re just as dangerous as street “racers” that won’t pass tech. I might prefer a speeder with an old drip over a dipshit that ignored the grinding noise and wore brake pads down to the backing plates
North America does not safety inspect vehicles like Europe.
That’s my point? My state checks normal cars for OBDII codes and nothing else. One neighboring state does full inspection and fails for rust holes. The other neighbor has no inspection. Saying a street “racer” (which I keep putting in quotes because I’m positive most commenters in this thread aren’t talking about racing) that won’t pass tech shouldn’t be “racing” is acting like the bar is any higher for the average car being driven by someone texting and driving.
So that’s a completely different conversation. One that I think the US should have, mind you, since I agree that it’s wildly unsafe.
But my point is that if your car can’t pass inspection, it shouldn’t be on the road, and it definitely shouldn’t be racing, on-track or no.
Yes. It puts other people - uninvolved, innocent people - in mortal danger. Also it puts other people’s property in danger. It’s selfish and ignorant.
Yes. Its incredibly risky behaviour for everyone around.
Putting people at risk like this when they had no say in it is what makes someone a bad person.
Not bad people but bad choices. But you can street race right if you close off the routes still illegal tho.
Will you stfu already?
No
If we didn’t want people to abuse their giant metal death machines then we shouldn’t let people have them in the first place
If they were just endangering themselves? I don’t care.
But in the real world, yeah, they’re horrible people that put lives at risk, along with property.
