Always backup!!! From the fire, I mean, place your safety first
Perhaps contained evidence against the former PM who tried to do a military coup and this is the way of getting rid of it? Perhaps protecting co-conspirators if not the top guy.
You do know that there’s two korean countries, right?
What are you talking about? There’s one Korea and half of it is occupied by an imperialist army.
Am I on .world? Why are people downvoting objective reality?
Oh, so they share their passport, their borders, their economy and so forth? Do you also believe that all countries that speak English, is the UK? or US?
You can accept or reject the claim that South Korea is an imperialist outpost of the US. I don’t care about that right now.
But you do know that nothing in OPs comment implies that the two korea’s share passports or anything like that, right? Like, come on, these are basic reading comprehension skills.
And you simply don’t get the point, that there are two “Korea” and that it would be prudent to say which one you are talking about. That’s beyond your basic comprehension skills.
Why do I have to put up with this kind of feigned ignorance after being made to look at maps that include Crimea in Ukraine for like a decade now?
saw a sticker recently that said “there is no cloud, just other people’s computers”
This is a clear example where ‘the cloud’ really is a physical place.
What else would it be? What do people think the cloud is?
For a long while, I had hoped it was at least 6 physical places, with various redundancies. A few billion small-ish servers at internet network hubs.
That or the magical floating bits that go over hackers heads in the movies. Those also look like the cloud. Not very secure, but quite convenient.
Well, a properly managed cloud storage service very much should be multiple locations with redundant copies of data lol yes. So you’re not wrong in that.
As a sysadmin that’s pretty much my worst nightmare. I really feel for those trying to pick the pieces back up again after that.
You know for a fact that the people doing the largest share of the recovery effort have nothing to do with the decision to have no backups.
But with the way social/work hierarchies work in SK, it was probably never brought up.
You know for a fact that the people doing the largest share of the recovery effort have nothing to do with the decision to have no backups.
Exactly. How they got there is no consolation to those dealing with it now.
I feel your pain, but meanwhile I’m laughing. No backups, no fire suppression system, what the fuck are these clowns doing.
Suppressing evidence? Looks like this was a deliberate oversight to later erase data.
Probably data retention safety was overruled earlier by one person.
So, I think the designed erase worked as designed .
I don’t know about deliberate, but it certainly crossed my mind.
Bingo!
Pretty big conspiracy theory for a situation where incompetence doesn’t seem out of the ordinary.
SysAdmins saying “We need X, we need Y”, someone who signs the cheques saying “But it works fine! Why would there be a fire? We already spent so much on those UPSs”
I don’t know a lot at this time. The cool thing is this will be discussed for years , and any who follow this will know a lot more.
I’m just saying if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck it may not be a squirrel
What you described isn’t “looks like a duck, quacks like a duck”.
This is a fire in a government (publicly-funded) location in an industry that’s often overlooked and underfunded… in a traditionally conservative country (with a Liberal leader for the last few months) that is part of a very top-down hierarchical structure. Which would suggest that the complaints of a systems administrator are likely to be ignored. And that’s assuming that the systems administrator is competent, which isn’t a guarantee in and of itself.
I’m seeing what looks like a duck, I’m hearing the quacks. The conspiracy theory is that it’s a squirrel in a duck costume that learned how to quack so people would toss it bread.
Here we have a glass of water, it’s half full.
Did someone forget to fill it up, or did someone drink it.
Is it institutional incompetence or criminal conspiracy?
I don’t think changing the analogy makes your argument stronger
Hanlon’s razor mate. I know it’s entirely possible that it’s a conspiracy, but it’d entirely possible (and more likely) that it’s just incompetence and lack of communication due to inefficient and lackluster processes as well as too many levels of leadership.
A nice clean start on a fresh install.
Yeah who needs proper DR. it’s not like disasters ever happen.
Kein Backup, kein Mitleid!
Disaster Recovery Concepts:
- Recovery time objective (RTO): maximum time to restore system function.
- Recovery point objective (RPO): maximum age of data needed to resume operations.
- Recovery consistency objective (RCO): how many inconsistent entries are allowed in recovered data.
- Sierra Madre objective (SMO): We don’t need no stinkin’ backups.
Get disaster insurance, wait for failure, collect a big c-suite payout and move to the next company.
Everyone else gets to find new exciting jobs.
My favorite is places that don’t want to allocate time or resources to testing disaster recovery.
Always have two backups in different places than the original. If not, the least you can do is have one backup copy. How does the government don’t have such thing?
Government people get jobs by schmoozing and making deals, not by merit or skill.
Pournelle’s Law always seems relevant.
Ooh, ooh! I’m in that law! I’m in the (to paraphrase) “competent and devoted to the goal but unempowered” group!
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No.
But it does give more options to work around or not support those entities since they don’t have as much direct authority.
I have one backup but keep legacy things so that in a massive disaster I still have archives that have some of my important long term type documents. So figure one up to date backup and in a disaster I have stuff from last year.
At least they saved the Internet box. Otherwise, we’ll have to bother the elders of the Internet again.
The fire reached Big Ben?
At a sea world??!!
Weird how there is a rising MAGA party in KR and an aligned former pm who attempted a coup. What a weird coincidence.
It’s too bad it wasn’t a rain cloud or it would havd destroyed the fire and not the other way around
So this is the “maintenance” the gov services are currently having.
Even though they historically used to have a great backup system for their historians and government records.
see link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritable_Records_of_the_Joseon_Dynasty
