- cross-posted to:
- europe@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- europe@lemmy.ml
Summary
King Felipe VI of Spain faced a hostile crowd in Valencia, where unprecedented floods have devastated communities, leaving over 200 dead and many missing. Footage shows protesters shouting “murderer” and “shame” at the king, with some throwing objects and mud as he walked through the affected area of Paiporta.
They raped, murdered and pillaged my ancestors and up until the but very distant past. So pardon me for holding a grudge
Much more recently, Germans put a bunch of my ancestors in ovens. I don’t hold a grudge with the ones who had nothing to do with it (i.e. almost every German alive today).
I might have bad news for you: your ancestors raped murdered and pillaged someones ancestors. I don’t even need to know where exactly you’re from to make this statement with full confidence.
So hold your grudge if you want, just don’t be hypocritical about it.
Nah mate, I’m pretty sure the only barbaric civilizations were the European ones. Never heard of any american civilization doing that kind of thing in the past. Nor any asian one. It’s just the european barbarians…
/s (although it should be pretty evident).
Seeing some comments, that /s is pretty much necessary.
Yeah man, my ancestors were raped, murdered, and tortured by a European country in the XX’th century.
I don’t hold this generation accountable for the crimes of their forefathers.
Move on
But they get to enjoy the benefits of the criminality of their forebears?
All cultures to a greater or lesser extent, enjoy the fruits of raping and pillaging other groups. That is just how it was done for the entirety of human existence
People like you just like to concentrate on your own perceived exceptionalism and that of your group. All this intelectual dishonesty serves to get economic benefit from playing the victim
Genocide and theft are okay because everyone does it?
Tell me that you’re of European descent without telling me you’re of European descent.
You mean like how Chinese, Mongols, Japanese, Namibians, Egyptians, Somalians, Aztec, Cherokee, all raped and pillaged to their hearts content for literally hundreds and some for more that a thousand years, until someone stronger showed up?
Yeah, get a history book
And no, I am not European or American or come from any developed country. I am Latin American, but unlike you, I don’t get my education from internet bulletin boards
Smells like whitesplaining in here…
No. Smells like concentrated ignorance. Read a book. Every civilization did war crimes. Sorry to tell you dear, but eveyry single one did. So don’t be a hypocrite.
You think Muslims conquered all north africa and part of Europe with the power of love and flowers? Or that Japan, in the XX century was just having fun with china? Or that the Aztecs beheaded people but just a little?
Hitites and the gang of Mesopotamia ring a bell?
Technically speaking you’d have to say they did war crimes by modern standards.
A lot of what you describe wasn’t actually criminal at the time, see. It was called “war”.
Doesn’t make it any less horrific, mind.
So what"s your solution? Because, as far as I know, Spain doesn’t have an colonies nowadays. And what are those benefits anyways?
If they raped your ancestors, which by the way I believe is disingenuous, as Im sure much mixing was consensual (not denying rape though), you are as much the offspring of the rapist as of the raped, you’d do well in starting to acknowledge that you are part of that which you hate.
If a black person has an offspring with a white one, the offspring has the same right to be callen white or black, even though society has’nt realized that yet.