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Oh I made it, I make more than a lot of my peers in highschool, not all of them, but I make a good wage. But I fucking hate the dev industry man. I was unemployed for 3 months and I got so much done. Agile methodology sucks the soul out of me, I don’t have anything left for my personal projects. It’s micromanagement incarnate. Oh you had two bad dev cycles in a row? Guess it’s time for a PIP. Oh you had to step away for an errand a few times this dev cycle? Let’s not make it a habit, even though all your work is done. Oh you have mutiple 2 hour meetings to attend and we still label you as having full capacity meaning you have to figure out how to do 8 days of dev work in almost half that time. I’m so fucking tired of it.
It’s also full of boot lickers. Had people on my team that were like “oh I’ll just work this weekend to make the deadline” and I’m like why. They made the deadline even though we told them it was too aggressive. You don’t get paid more for hitting it or for putting more hours in. Stop enabling them and devaluing labor.
Ugh god don’t get me started on that, it’s literally ingrained in the work cutlure that getting the work done is more important than following the labor laws. I have gotten in trouble for not attending “”“optional”" meetings out of work hours.
they have no value in their lives other than work. tons of people out this in many industries.
they have no hobbies, no passions, and their friendships are typically shallow competitions of materialism and titles.
One of the guys I used to work with that was like that seems to have other hobbies. He likes riding his bike and learning guitar, playing video games, traveling Europe. But he’ll also just work though a weekend or on his vacation. I don’t get it.
Bro… As someone who felt this and is happier making less… Consider state govt tech roles.
You’ll have more relevant experience than your peers, there’s no ‘cycle’ to speak of…
Not even my team, got quoted like 200K on a Drupal upgrade.
I was like “guys I have upgraded about 400 Drupal sites exactly like this it takes 3 hours max.”
Hero.
That team keeps asking me questions and my boss is protective of it. “Email him and schedule time, stop wasting my teams time.” Essentially letting me fuck off.
Yeah I make less. But I have enough time to literally take on anything. Started self hosting, exercising, building a small business…
Dev industry blows so hard.
Yeah I actually have friends who work for my city, I told them to let me know if positions open up, but the other issue is that city jobs are so good that no one leaves lol. I’m looking to switch to sys admin work because I have a background in that, I’m hoping to get my base level cert in that this year.
Truth is, most kids who are gifted in school grow up to be perfectly average.
Perfectly average is a pretty hard target to hit. Where do you start taking the measurement from, and do you include the curvature, or just a straight line measurement? And do you have to hit maximum before measuring, or do we take an average of your measurements?
just pull it from the economic stats of your country/state/city.
however most people live in bubbles are are largely concerned about how they are doing to their neighbors, friends, and work colleagues. so if you make 400K a year but steve two desks over makes 550K a year, you feel like you’re below average and failing at life.
Yeah, but like, how do you measure steve? Do you ask him nicely first, or are you doing it all incognito like? And you need to standardize the measurements somehow. Do you ask the same person to do the measuring? How is that going to work when you need to poll across a large section to be sure you’re perfectly average?
because Steve is probably constantly bragging about how much money they have.
rich people love nothing more at social events than to brag about how much money they are spending/making.
look dude, the stats are out there. google them. it takes a few seconds to look up labor data, homeprices, wage data, etc.
the key is to stop agonizing about what could have been or should be. accept what you are.
Yeah, but steve, and most of the others, are self-reporting. Can you really trust those numbers? Unless you get your hands dirty and put the ruler up there yourself, how can you be certain? You’ve got to be certain here. Maybe it’s not six, maybe it’s only five and three quarters.
because as you grow up your cohort pool gets bigger an bigger and more elite.
being a big fish in a tiny pond doesn’t mean you’re a big fish in the ocean. in the Ocean there are Tuna 100x as big as you and even bigger predators.
most kids level off at 10
Either you are called lazy for being chill despite knowing how much potential you could show to please yourself and others, or you could be pushing yourself to burnout and despair to please yourself and others.
Yep, burnout and depression can hit everyone and anyone.
Obviously yeah, my injury is addiction. Any further questions
That and “I totally would have gone to grad school, had [situation] not happened”
Fr though I totally would’ve gone to grad school had I not been disowned. Ignore that my sister also decided not to go last minute
The only people calling everyone out for this were Always going to be failures.
Meh…
I was successful in science/engineering for about 25 years before I burned out. I did make it, I’m just tired.
I’m in this picture and I don’t like it. 23 years school then 7 years running a research lab and writing a couple NSF proposals that got accepted. I was happy to cash out, drop clearance, and take an industry job for WTF 2X the money after one year?! No regrets, even if my dissertation is now buried forever. I’m a sellout and I’m totally cool with it. I can do cool shit with my kids now.
How about being above average intelligence, but get placed in below average classes because one child study team person decided you had “auditory” problems while you were in kindergarten? I recently found out that my highschool guidance counselors lied about my placement tests and I should have been in honors science instead of remedial.
No doubt. No doubt in my mind… I bet I could do a book report right over them mountains!
FACT: Before he was Uncle Rico, he was Lazlo Hollyfeld, one of the smartest men alive.
Never heard of this. Is it any good? I see Val Kilmer and comedy and I just think of Top Secret! and how good that was. Makes me wanna check this one out.
It’s one of my favorite movies from the 80s. Very much worth your time if you enjoy Kilmer, the whole cast is fantastic.
Not to cope with this but for me it was more that I was smart enough as a kid to coast through school without putting in any effort, not paying attention in class, not taking notes, not revising and often not even doing homework and just getting good marks on exams from knowing things already or just applying some logic to the questions and because the school system only cares about getting as many kids as possible a passing grade, the school didn’t care and just left people like me to our own devices and focused all the resources on the kids that were failing. Then when I got to A levels/ uni, where things suddenly got way more difficult, I just hadn’t developed and of the skills to actually learn stuff like that and I floundered (and I’m sure having ADHD didn’t help).
So for me at least it was less about burnout and more about my “natural smarts” only taking me so far and the school system failing me (and me also failing myself)
Yes, this is so it for me too. It wasn’t until high school that I was like, “But why am I failing when I didn’t before?!” And a teacher was like, “Umm, well did you study?” And my first thought was, “Why would I have to do that?”
Its nice to have a narrative for yourself.
There’s a lot of comments in here addressing the social skill reduction, as if those kids in gifted programs (hello, fellow former gifted kids) didn’t still socialize with their peers in just about every other aspect.
Even the kids in ‘charter school programs’ here were just separated from a group of 400 to a group of 50 or so kids for half or so of the day and then the rest of the stuff they attended classes with the other 350 kids. Even if they were completely separated off, they still have peers (admittedly, also ‘gifted’ peers).
Ignoring that portion, and you’ve still got the fact that you MUST challenge a child while developing. If I didn’t get put in the ‘gifted’ track, I’d have goofed off even more and paid even less attention. NONE of my peers had their parents doing their homework (like some commentera have put), we just finally had homework we couldn’t do on our own on the bus ride home. If you don’t challenge a child’s mind, they can’t grow. And people who think every kid learns at the same pace, and that learning slower than the pace your brain can handle has no negative side effects, have no idea what they’re talking about and should look into child development as a focus of psychology and come back to this comment thread.
most of the comments here are just self-victimization in the form of ‘could have been’.
which is precisely the premise of the OG post. People are just pouring their delusions into this being like ‘no but that doesn’t apply to me!! i truly was gifted and special!!’
I don’t know… hard for me to understand any of this. I was not a gifted kid. I was smart and hard working. Most ‘gifted’ people I have met are just… lazy jerks who refuse to grow up and take responsibility for their choices… but LOVE to go on and on about how everything is their parents/teachers fault and how their perfectly decent life would have been so much ‘better’ and they’d be the next Bill Gates/Zuckerberg/Musk if some math teacher had been less mean to them as a pre teen.
“I could’ve done physics” is the billionaire equivalent of “could have gone pro.”
