On it’s own, it doesn’t matter at all. You can’t protest against those who don’t recognise your humanity. The exact lesson from apartheid here in south Africa. There is no peaceful way to oppose ideologies based on violence.
Fascists are all about controlling the narrative. Any time we can seize that from them, they will be impacted. Trump has been trying desperately for months to encite violence and riots so he can justify massive military intervention. So far, his use of the national guard on peaceful cities is being met with contempt and resistance by the majority of Americans. Even his base is getting frustrated.
It sucks, but this is what winning looks like when we have a president, house, senate, and Supreme Court all captured by a hostile party looking to dismantle and divide the country.
If they know you are just peaceful you will be ignored. As has already happened in the USA. You don’t understand what I said because you were taught a nonsense history of SA.
Exactly. And for all of this “the exact lesson from apartheid” we’re all supposed to have taken to heart about the uselessness of non-violent protest, remind me again because it’s been some thirty years since I last heard about it . . . where is apartheid now?
I love when these fifth columnists show up to shit on any individual effort toward change, no matter how tiny, and to shower any “I can” idea with contempt, because it tells me who they are, and confirms that my own infinitesimal contribution, in combination with millions of other like contributions, is anything but useless.
There’s a maybe too large part of me that thinks violence may be necessary, but you know what?
I’m kind of a cranky, belligerent jerk sometimes, and I’ve been wrong about a lot of things. I could be wrong again. I hope so.
And the fact of the matter is that a lot of people who I respect and love disagree with me and demand peaceful protest and are trying much more clever ideas than I’ve come up with. Inflatable animal costumes? I never considered that one. And damn if it doesn’t ruin their photo ops. Bravo!
Good people are having a lot stolen from them. It would be shitty if anyone steals peaceful protest away from them too.
I figure there is room for peaceful protest, support groups, and defiant Black Panthers. They aren’t mutually exclusive towards achieving a positive peace, they just have different methods. They should just agree to support each other in the ways that make sense - Panthers warding off ICE raids and police kettles, supporters feeding, healing, and sheltering, peaceful protesters giving body and voice to the movement.
The change for a better world is an animal, and an animal is made up of many parts. Without them, it would likely die.
The protests aren’t meant to persuade Trump. You should educate yourself on how things work in the US.
The point is to persuade the 150+ million Americans that did not vote in the last election to vote in the next one, which is only about a year away. If Trump loses the house and senate, he will be severely limited in what he can do, and many of the awful things taking place can be reversed or at least halted.
Secondarily, many people that dispassionately voted for Trump are not happy about the economy and how he’s preventing the release of the Epstein files. Those people absolutely can be persuaded to turn against him in the next election.
This is (for the moment) still a democratic republic.
On it’s own, it doesn’t matter at all. You can’t protest against those who don’t recognise your humanity. The exact lesson from apartheid here in south Africa. There is no peaceful way to oppose ideologies based on violence.
It mattered enough for the administration to act out, post AI, and create competition stories to have anything else to talk about
This fascist administration and fake fox news both disagree with you
Fascists are all about controlling the narrative. Any time we can seize that from them, they will be impacted. Trump has been trying desperately for months to encite violence and riots so he can justify massive military intervention. So far, his use of the national guard on peaceful cities is being met with contempt and resistance by the majority of Americans. Even his base is getting frustrated.
It sucks, but this is what winning looks like when we have a president, house, senate, and Supreme Court all captured by a hostile party looking to dismantle and divide the country.
Still think this holds up? They dismissed it effortlessly. You are impotent and they know it.
living in your head rent free a month later, oh man
There were protests in South Africa against apartheid
If they know you are just peaceful you will be ignored. As has already happened in the USA. You don’t understand what I said because you were taught a nonsense history of SA.
You said you can’t protest and that’s just wrong
Exactly. And for all of this “the exact lesson from apartheid” we’re all supposed to have taken to heart about the uselessness of non-violent protest, remind me again because it’s been some thirty years since I last heard about it . . . where is apartheid now?
I love when these fifth columnists show up to shit on any individual effort toward change, no matter how tiny, and to shower any “I can” idea with contempt, because it tells me who they are, and confirms that my own infinitesimal contribution, in combination with millions of other like contributions, is anything but useless.
There’s a maybe too large part of me that thinks violence may be necessary, but you know what?
I’m kind of a cranky, belligerent jerk sometimes, and I’ve been wrong about a lot of things. I could be wrong again. I hope so.
And the fact of the matter is that a lot of people who I respect and love disagree with me and demand peaceful protest and are trying much more clever ideas than I’ve come up with. Inflatable animal costumes? I never considered that one. And damn if it doesn’t ruin their photo ops. Bravo!
Good people are having a lot stolen from them. It would be shitty if anyone steals peaceful protest away from them too.
I figure there is room for peaceful protest, support groups, and defiant Black Panthers. They aren’t mutually exclusive towards achieving a positive peace, they just have different methods. They should just agree to support each other in the ways that make sense - Panthers warding off ICE raids and police kettles, supporters feeding, healing, and sheltering, peaceful protesters giving body and voice to the movement.
The change for a better world is an animal, and an animal is made up of many parts. Without them, it would likely die.
The protests aren’t meant to persuade Trump. You should educate yourself on how things work in the US.
The point is to persuade the 150+ million Americans that did not vote in the last election to vote in the next one, which is only about a year away. If Trump loses the house and senate, he will be severely limited in what he can do, and many of the awful things taking place can be reversed or at least halted.
Secondarily, many people that dispassionately voted for Trump are not happy about the economy and how he’s preventing the release of the Epstein files. Those people absolutely can be persuaded to turn against him in the next election.
This is (for the moment) still a democratic republic.