Indulge me for the coming delusion, but if we ignore who this is, forget all the reasons we know that we can’t trust him, and allow ourselves just a few moments to hope that we could live in such a world.
A world where manual labor is no longer needed, where people can just exist as large mammals are meant to exist. Robots will handle it all and we can just do as we please… and the robots are going to be plentiful because once enough of the process of making a robot becomes automated, the cost of it will go to zero. But to get there it is going to require a ton of money… these robots are going to be way too expensive for people to actually buy them, so investors and governments will help out. The investors will eventually lose everything, but that will put us on the way to having everything we need to be created through completely automated systems.
Of course, there will still be jobs for those who really want them - or more likely, who want them and are good at them - or even more likely, who knows the right people… but if we can get our basic needs taken care of it night not fully end poverty but it would be a step in the right direction.
But, alas… It’s Musk saying it so it’s only to further enrich himself and won’t actually happen.
It’s crazy how we all know this dude is the male cracked out version of Elizabeth Holmes and getting paid unfathomable sums of money to commit all of these obvious and serious crimes in public.
That’s not money, that’s power. Money quits being money somewhere around a million dollars a year-ish, call it 100M lump sum. Above that, more money isn’t an abstract thing you buy goods, services and real-estate with, it’s power: the power to command other people to do your bidding.
Unless you buy Twitter.
No, that was absolutely that. Do you not think he gained a massive amount of control with that?
No one takes X seriously.
Is that why most politicians, musicians, comedians etc, still treat it as their main platforms to get info out? Because they don’t take it seriously?
The big problem is actually that they do. That social inertia works so slowly that they didn’t.
That some random crypto company making Bluesky was the closest to a solution, and it looks like it will also have some power crazed person leading it.
I still think there’s a difference.
When people talk about wielding money like power, its more along the lines of
- if you don’t do what I say, I’ll destroy you by doing XYZ.
- you better change your laws or I can fuck shit up in some way.
- I can break the law because you can’t fucking touch me.
- Your example: the power to command other people to do your bidding.
For Twitter he actually used his wealth as actual money to buy something you would buy with money.
He did get power from it yes, but I still think there’s a distinction when talking about wiedling it as power vs using money as money.
Gotta say this difference seems very arbitrary. He bought a company, and platform. Both direct how people spend their time. A platform is obvious but a company, he directs what the people who work there work on. Its definitely a match to somewhere far past where money buys you things.
There’s all kinds of power and influence of people through the press is a very traditional kind of indirect power for people to wield. When I talk about money as power it definitely includes the power to influence how people think and vote and act without putting an actual gun to their heads. Twitter is the new TV and TV was the new radio and the radio was the new newspaper… All kinds of wealthy and powerful people in the past sought control of the press, not only for their own desires, but also as a bargaining chip with other people with power: “do this for me and I’ll make you look good on my platform…”
He bought the whole US president. Watch him kill SLS and Gateway the second Issacman gets confirmed as head NASA admin. I don’t know why private companies don’t fund their own shit rather than steal from taxpayerS through NASA.
I don’t know why private companies don’t fund their own shit rather than steal from taxpayerS through NASA.
It’s not that they can’t fund their own: it’s “why would they, when they can use their wealth and influence to get it funded by taxpayers?” https://youtu.be/kTlhIQeBWHI?t=20
These are forward looking claims on something they are building. It’s not quite the same.
FSD is closer, but it is an improving product.
It’d be more like if FSD wasn’t ever improving even and yet he still kept making the claims.
He should still be punished for the FSD stuff though.
Someone didn’t learn lessons from Wall-E. Who am I kidding, his ego is too inflated to learn.
He sounds quite deranged. Maybe he needs a timeout in a sift padded room. Without internet.
he needs to lay off the ketamine and cocaine.
No. He needs to take more. The amount he’s currently taking is a measly “woke-trans-vegan-lib-radical-left amount for girls”.
If he was a real man and a genius, he’d double the amount of ketamine and cocaine he takes every day.
So twice as much today, 4x as much tomorrow, 8x as much the day after…
I mean… how many of yall saw him on Joe Rogan a week ago?
Like you actually watched it all
How people get investing in this shit show is beyond me.
There do exist people who supply the hardware for those paid by the bastards. Highly reminiscent of those who sell the pickaxes and shovels to miners during those gold rushes.
Can someone ask him to clarify what he mean by “eliminate poverty”?
Because there are a couple of way to do that which I’m not too found to.
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He could give all of the poor people some of his tesla shares.
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AI executioners.
The full presentation is 10x weirder. He says the robots will eliminate poverty and provide universal health care. In fact, he says the only way we can get universal health care is with optimus robots. He also says that with optimus robots we don’t need prisons. We just have an optimus robot follow criminals around and it will stop them from commiting crimes.
He also sounds like a 5th grader nervously stumbling through a speech to their class about Luis and Clark.
Musk = POS Nazi.
His hair looks so good though.
Lets imagine things go just as he wants and we have army of robots doing all the work and such. Robots who he controls. All over the world, most likely, if they are really useful. People would start to depend on them more and more. Imagine if someone could turn off your every convenicence, or your entire country at a whim?
These people already have all the money in the world, yet they will never be satisfied. What is even left for them except complete domination of all of us?
Yes Elon will never face poverty but he will cut all benefits programs from those in need. He will cut all taxes he will pay and he will watch you die. That is the reality of these MAGAts.
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… and liars lie.
"Instead of physically jailing prisoners, Optimus could “follow you around and stop you from doing crime,” he said
This is going to last all of 30 seconds as that is the amount of time it’ll take for a criminal to hop a cyclone fence and take off never to be seen again. Or we can have the 10 minute scenario where criminal and friends take sledgehammers to the thing and sell it for scrap.
Literally slap-drones from the Culture lol
I’m not sure if this kind of thing is just about enriching himself. Of course that’s a big part of it. But he also wants to be a great man of history. He wants to be the person who saves the world. He wants to be forever remembered as the greatest hero who ever lived.
He won’t, of course. Because he’s a clueless idiot. A clueless idiot who managed to fuck up his own PR so hard that he’s burnt away the reputation as a genius that he used to have.
But he really does want to be adored.
Now you put a stupid idea in front of me of Musk doing shit for the common folk just because no one in the higher class wants to have to deal with him, just to stroke his ego and make it to history books.
Ultimate pettiness that would benefit the whole world.
Worst part is, some naive part of me believes this idiot is capable of that. xD
In late October 2021, Elon Musk was challenged to end world hunger by David Beasley, the director of the UN’s World Food Programme. Beasley claimed that a small portion of Musk’s wealth could solve world hunger, and Musk responded on Twitter that he would sell Tesla stock to do so, provided the UN could provide a detailed, transparent accounting of how the $6 billion would be spent. The WFP then released a plan, but Musk did not donate the money.
just about enriching himself. Of course that’s a big part of it.
Can’t make the big changes without big $$$ to make things happen.
Unfortunately, he looks like a delusional moron with the life experience and grasp on reality of a suburban 14 year old. So, a couple of good ideas in there, but absolute disconnect from the realpolitik necessary to effect true change.
Or just give all your money away to poor people. By my calculations that would be about $25k per poor adult.
