• Nomorereddit@lemmy.today
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    25 days ago

    Nope! I’ll horde steam and gog both, now i shame you into flossing your feet and brushing your butt.

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    25 days ago

    I’m not trying to defend anyone here, though it might seem like that, but I’m not sure why valve is lumped in with this, especially since that’s the steam logo.

    Steam, as a platform, hasn’t released much of anything, ever. Valve has been sitting mostly on the sidelines since half-life 2 episode 2 and HL:Alyx.

    Steam itself is just a marketplace.

    I get that a lot of publishers on steam will fall into the categories of games that are the subject of the meme, but I have a hard time piling steam with the games that are published on it.

    And yes, corporations are not our friends, and all billionaires are bad billionaires, eat the rich and all that… I’m just saying. There’s a lot of bigger, much worse, fish to fry than gaben, valve, and steam in this discussion. That could have been EA’s logo, or the Xbox logo (or ms game studios or whatever) or any number of massive publishers that are relevant here. Using the steam logo is lazy at best.

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      24 days ago

      Steam.

      Owned by Valve.

      Published CS:GO.

      Home to the most deprived gambling economy, that set the blueprint for others to follow.

      Fuck Valve.

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      24 days ago

      People are stupid and think steam is drm. It’s that simple. For what ever reason people don’t realize that 95% of all games on steam are entirely drm free. Just remove the overlay and you don’t even need steam turned on to play games.

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        24 days ago

        Steam also offers DRM, it’s just up to devs to use it. And steams DRM is relatively unintrusive.

        I think steam should maybe be in the middle, and the other 2 far on the left.

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        24 days ago

        I think it’s lumped in because Steam sells games with DRMs, but GOG on the other hand will not sell games that come with any type of DRM at all.

        I’m sure if Valve had the choice, they’d banish DRMs too, but I’m sure they don’t because they don’t want to piss off their big publishers (even though drm literally does nothing except make paying customers have a worse experience with their shitty games).

        (I don’t really agree with “oritented to publishers”, especially when they release features like a more polish family library, but i guess i can see their point in some ways)

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      24 days ago

      Steam: i’m gonna need an internet connection and dictate your OS also you need to run my shit to game

      Gog: fuck if i care, here’s the exe

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        24 days ago

        We know you full of bs tho when you say they dictate the OS, even though they’re the ones who have contributed most to gaming on Linux.

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          24 days ago

          Try running it on anything that doesn’t support chromium v115

          edit: If you don’t understand why people don’t want chromium forced on them, maybe you should sit down.

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                24 days ago

                Well you started spouting nonsense so I assumed you were a bot.

                Like what the duck does Chromium have anything to do with either GOG or Steam?

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        24 days ago

        If the dev doesn’t opt to implement steams drm, you can also just run the exe. Downloading it requires the client vs. GOG allowing you to dl the game from their website, but that’s about the only difference (GOG outright refusing any games with DRM is incredibly based though and a great reason to buy on GOG over steam)

        And that can be quite helpful. Just yesterday I had a game that wouldn’t launch via steam, but for some reason worked fine if I just ran it as an executable via protontricks.

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          I had a game that wouldn’t launch via steam, but for some reason worked fine if I just ran it as an executable via protontricks.

          You do realise that’s actually requiring you to modify things you shou;don’t have to in order to access things that you’ve paid for, right?

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            No, because the game does not support linux, so I never paid for it to work on linux. The fact that most games do anyway, usually out of the box and without any issues, is largely thanks to valve.

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      25 days ago

      Well, steam isn’t just a marketplace. A marketplace would be just a place to buy keys, or similar. Steam is an ecosystem, with a market, and a launcher, and a community hub, and a modding platform. The multiplayer integration that many games rely on for matchmaking/lobbies. And every game on steam uses at least steam’s DRM, where you are required to connect to the Internet every now and then to verify ownership of your library.

      They have been the only platform to really try to support Linux though, and have made huge strides in the last few years. Steam is a big enough influence on the games economy that some of their choices become industry standards. And the 30% cut is the price devs pay to get into their system.

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        Like the previous poster, I’m not defending steam. No good billionaires, fight for the proletariat, down with the elite, etc

        Not all steam games use steam DRM. It’s opt in by the developer. Lots of steam games you can literally just copy out of steam onto a USB key and run it. No DRM at all.

        Don’t get me wrong they are skeezy in other ways (charging I indie deva 30% and big publishers less) but if you’re going to criticize them, then at least criticize them for something real.

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        24 days ago

        Like 95% of steam games are drm free… The only reason steam has to be running is cause games are bundled with a dll that enables the overlay, cloud sync etc. it’s just removable and your games don’t rely on steam at all.

        No check in, no drm, no nothing.

        It’s basically only the biggest triple A games that use steamDRM.

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    26 days ago

    Wouldn’t Steam, with TF2, be the most costumer oriented?

    On being customer oriented on the other hand, Steam could use some improvement.

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      25 days ago

      Akcthually you can publish drm free games on steam, it’s just that you cannot download an installer. But for some games you can just copy the folder and it’s going to work even without steam. Also GOG enforces drm free games

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        25 days ago

        But this does nothing to address my need for towering pillars of hats, masks, and outfits!

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            25 days ago

            I do hope you’re as purposeful in misunderstanding me as I am in taking the costume/customer typo as an intended choice of wording.

            If so, kudos for beating me at my own game, because I’m not sure!

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    25 days ago

    You do you but I don’t reject any platform or publisher and treat each game/sale on a case by case basis as it suits me. If the product is good enough I will put up with additional installations.

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      25 days ago

      If they do it for others, like in film, tv, or theater, they’re also called costume designers.

      Always seemed like a neat career!

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      25 days ago

      A costumer is someone who puts others in a costume. They might do cosplay themselves, but it’s not part of the job.

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    25 days ago

    I feel like GOG would be more popular if their client were better. Maybe more usable with a controller too?

    And something that would help competition in the game launcher space in particular would be if OSes had great built-in controller support (and controller OS navigation) so we wouldn’t have to rely on Steam for it.

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      25 days ago

      I’m confused as to how people with English as a second language even learn the word “costumer”. It’s reasonably obscure!

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      26 days ago

      Having worked in an international environment for over a decade makes me 99% sure that OP speaks Portuguese.

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      26 days ago

      Who made that spelling and the pronunciation though? Seems like two separate people. Gets me every time.

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    25 days ago

    I use steam, but I moved the files out for games that will still work, as well as buy games on gog and download installers. I dont use gog galaxy cause? wont I have to be online to use my games?

    All my backups are on a drive

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      25 days ago

      Galaxy is just a launcher. You don’t need it to play any of your games, it’s just a centralized place to track achievements, sync cloud saves and whatnot.