It doesn’t get more pathetic than this.
Oh I disagree that the Democrats won’t be more pathetic than this.
Did King really believe this, or were there other reasons why he caved? His son, Angus King III, is running for governor of Maine, and Senator King’s decision may have been a misguided attempt to help him. King is also not up for reelection until 2030, so perhaps he thought he could escape electoral consequences.
Isn’t the election already over? How does caving now help? And if the gubernatorial election hasn’t happened yet, well, vote for the other Democratic candidate, I guess?
It’s probably a move to appease the corporate donors. I believe it kicks the can for the shutdown to be next year since it’s pretty much guaranteed to happen again.
Dems made them promise to put those ACA measures back in next year. They can light a fire under Republicans during midterms if they don’t stick to their word and there could even be another shutdown which would tank Republicans at the polls.
It was a weak move to cave this time around, but there’s a lot of room to demand even more when it’s right around midterms.
Dems made them promise
Can’t trust the promise of liars. They threw it all away for a promise of a vote that will never fucking happen.
If Dems are smart they would use the failure to deliver on that promise by Republicans and the possibility of another shutdown to pass positive legislation leading up to midterms.
This was the only leverage dems had for this congressional budget year. They gave it up for a vote on a single concession, which will be voted against.
Corporations likely came in requesting things to open back up else a lot of the corporate donor money would stop. It was not a good move to fold, imo, they likely are aiming to make this a next year’s issue.
If Republicans vote against the concession then that will make even Republican voters upset, since so many people depend on having lower health insurance premiums via the ACA subsidies.
That’s not going to happen, republican voters will support their candidates opposing the opposition.
The vote will probably happen, it will simply fail.
Dems made them promise to put those ACA measures back in next year.
They got Thune to promise a separate vote in the senate on the ACA credits, probably in December. Even if that passed in the senate, Johnson won’t schedule a vote on it in the house. And if by some miracle it passed the house, Trump would just veto it.
It’s nothing. It’s absolutely nothing. At most they got Republicans to vote against ACA credits specifically, which is nothing compared to other shit they’ve already voted on, and will be far less effective than letting them take the heat for the shut down. The fact that they were willing to prolong the shut down just to kill the ACA credits says a lot more than a simple vote would.
It all makes sense when you realize moderate Dems want what Trump is doing.
Even if trump were to sign it, enrollment ends on December 15th, so agreeing to hold a vote in December basically guarantees people will be hit with higher premiums which is what they were fighting to avoid.
Blue states need to implement their own public healthcare options. The longer we rely on the Federal government for it, the more likely it gets taken away at this point in time. People living in Purple and Red states will be the ones demanding it if all the Blue states are not even using it.
Oh boy is that sad. Standing up to Trump works just fine. To put it politely, you get fucked for sure when you roll over, at least when you stand up there’s a chance.
In any other circumstance, this would be the end of the conversation. There’s no point in further conversation because even when their entire job is literally “do nothing”, they refuse to do it. So, you walk away, tell Security to remove them from the building, and let them know all further communication will be done through legal representation.
The fact that this isn’t happening shows that the entire system was doomed to begin with.
They’re not up for reelection next cycle, so they’re already getting fired, it’s just too bad that’s not happening for several months and it already fucked this particular situation and everything behind it (and they’ll do it again before they’re gone).
Being a democrat is like having commanding officers most of which cannot grasp which end of a gun the bullets come from.
It’s not stupidity or cowardice, the dems who voted to reopen are doing this on purpose. Their interests dont align with the well being of the vast majority of Americans.
Ok…after today, It’s possible I may need to retract that a little.
Well this is pretty much exactly what Republicans needed.
They pitched that they were perfectly willing to be reasonable and the democrats were the crazy ones.
Now they pass an extension, specifying to block the non-existent illegal immigrant gap and say “see, we were ready to take care of the people, but the democrats forced things to be bad, and these few democrats reluctantly came over which just proves they were in the wrong”
Another chunk of what I assume is their strategy: Make 2025 bad in ways to make it easier to make 2026 feel great by comparison.
Caving to Trump, though, works just great – for Trump and GOP, Certainly not for amyone else, such as theUS public,
Then nothing works and it’s civil war…maybe try something else first.
We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!
Remember how well “if you can’t fight them, join them!” worked for all of those people in Nazi Germany and WW2? Definitely caving in to the Nazis was a smart move…
Trump is a loser piece of shit wannabe Nazi, you don’t cave to Nazis, you fight them at all costs because caving is always worse than you think it is.
Pretending to have a spine for a few weeks must have been exhausting. Cowardly idiot.
And giving him what he wants will. Goodbye and good riddance you braindead meatbags
I wonder who paid him off.
AIPAC
And corporate and ultrarich
It was working until some cowards gave in.
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“Man who climbed halfway up small hill before giving up says reaching the top is impossible”
These worthless sacks of shit never even put their boots on.
