Communism (correction - Socialism) is a dictatorship of the proletariat. Resources must be usurped from the ruling class by force, as they cannot be reasoned with. There is nothing wrong with that.
no, the dictatorship of the proletariat is supposed to be a transitional phase. once you get to communism, it’s not supposed to be a dictatorship of anyone. even Marx allowed that it was possible that in a country with a strong democratic system, that the dictatorship of the proletariat might not even be needed. ironically, one of the countries where he said it might be possible was the United States and Great Britain.
For many westerners, communism is just a fantasy. They have no material grasp on what happens when you try to do it. They think you just magically redistribute resources while the ruling class stands by without interference.
I speculate that the deep influence of Christianity on the West has created a culture where people think that the point of ideology is to cultivate the most virtuous personal beliefs, not to actually try to materially change anything. It’s better to die on the cross than to actually be pragmatic.
Communism (correction - Socialism) is a dictatorship of the proletariat. Resources must be usurped from the ruling class by force, as they cannot be reasoned with. There is nothing wrong with that.
And of course everyone who disagrees with you even a little is part of that class.
no, the dictatorship of the proletariat is supposed to be a transitional phase. once you get to communism, it’s not supposed to be a dictatorship of anyone. even Marx allowed that it was possible that in a country with a strong democratic system, that the dictatorship of the proletariat might not even be needed. ironically, one of the countries where he said it might be possible was the United States and Great Britain.
clearly, times have changed.
You’re correct. Thank you for clarifying.
My point about “dictatorship” being “not real communism” still holds though. The dictatorship is required to achieve communism.
So Communism (correction - Socialism) is whatever the people who control all the tanks says it is?
How convenient.
There’s nothing wrong with usurping resources from the ruling class, but there is a lot wrong with imposing tyranny on the proletariat.
Which is what the previous ruling class will always accuse you of when you usurp their resources.
For many westerners, communism is just a fantasy. They have no material grasp on what happens when you try to do it. They think you just magically redistribute resources while the ruling class stands by without interference.
I speculate that the deep influence of Christianity on the West has created a culture where people think that the point of ideology is to cultivate the most virtuous personal beliefs, not to actually try to materially change anything. It’s better to die on the cross than to actually be pragmatic.