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    …Tesla - by far the nation’s biggest EV maker - have told a Trump-transition committee they support ending the subsidy…Elon Musk, one of Trump’s biggest backers and the world’s richest person, said in July that killing the subsidy might slightly hurt Tesla sales but would be “devastating” to its U.S. EV competitors, which include legacy automakers such as General Motors.

    Jesus. So much for the idea that Tesla is working to accelerate the transition from ICE vehicles to EVs.

    I will never buy a fucking Tesla. Ever. I would buy a Chevrolet Equinox EV, and I encourage anyone who is in the market for a new vehicle to buy one before the tax credit goes away.

    Edit: I would also get the Honda Prologue. It’s also eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. So is the Volkswagen ID.4.

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      I’ll honestly buy a Toyota, Honda or Hyundai before I ever buy a GM.

      The first two are built here in North America and give jobs directly to my friends.

      GM and fuck off an die. They’ve turned out turds for 30 years now and don’t deserve to be helped to stay afloat.

      The only legacy NA car manufacturer I’d consider is Ford.

      But yeah, you’d be a goof to invest in a Tesla vehicle at this point.

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        Chevy volt was and is still a great car. 2000s Chevy trucks are amazing. The Cruze is a steaming pile, the bolt had a battery problem but the ones that got free replacements are doing great, can’t think of any other major issues with Chevy tbh.

        Saying you’d only buy a Ford is crazy work and just shows you really aren’t super informed about cars at all. The focus, the edge, the escape, the ecosport are all dogshit. Certainly not better than gm.

        Neither of them are Honda status, but the dud of the 3 domestic manufacturers is stellantis save for ram 1 ton trucks.

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            I always wondered how ford hybrids were, my mom has a regular fusion that has been a champ for 250k miles so far.

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              As long as you take care of it, they seem like solid cars. And this is coming from someone who has pretty much only ever driven Japanese cars (and driven them into the ground, to well I’ve 200k miles). At least the ones from like 2012-2015… I can’t really speak to other years

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                Yeah Honda and Toyota are goated. Toyota recently is falling hard tho. Be careful if you’re in the market for one soon, 2022 and up Toyota is losing their reputation quickly

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        The Prologue and Equinox are a joint venture between Honda and Chevrolet!

        As a Canadian I would never buy a GM product because of the shit they pulled after 2008.

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        I was just trying to think of models that are eligible for the maximum $7,500 tax credit, and that are relatively affordable. There are lots of great EVs out there from several different manufacturers.

        Edit: I will mention, though, the Equinox EV looks like it’s a pretty good car, for the price. Car and Driver rated it 8.5/10.

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          Get a used bolt with the 4k tax credit, you can check if the recall was done to replace the battery and if it was you can get a 2018 or 2019 bolt with a new battery which includes a new warranty for like 10k.

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        GM also tends to build in Canada and Mexico for many of their product lines while claiming to be “American” - to say nothing for their terrible build quality and non-understanding of electricity.

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        My Chevy Volt is great and was one of the best reviewed hybrids. Still untouched on battery range, I think. And GM’s battery management system is top notch. Heater in my volt is shit unless I’m running ICE, though.

        Wouldn’t buy a GMC, but Chevy has never really done me wrong. Cadillac seems overpriced for a rebadged Chevy.

        Ford’s got good stuff but I’ve never really owned one since the Escort. Guess I might if they ever transition me from contractor to full employee.

        Chrysler… has a van. Guess it’s been fine but I’ll personally never get another one.

        Probably never buy a Japanese car unless those plants are staffed by UAW. I hear they are good but I’ve never been in one that seemed any better than an American car.

        I would never, ever buy a fucking Hyundai. I’ve been in two and they were the most cheap pieces of garbage I’ve ever seen. But I guess they were cheap pieces of garbage. They might’ve gotten better since I was only in the first couple of model years.

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          Wouldn’t buy a GMC but Chevy is ok? The money goes in the same pocket buddy, they’re the same cars with different badges!

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            I don’t think there were rebadges of the Volt or Bolt. Don’t recall one of the Cavalier. None of the Sonic. I honestly didn’t know until I just looked it up that they rebadged the Equinox to the Terrain, else I’d have said the stuff they felt was worth rebadging was just not great stuff. I won’t say the Equinox was a blast to drive, but that thing was a workhorse that got the job done for about 12 years.

            The old Blazer and Jimmy I wasn’t a fan of.

            But these days, their line of SUVs is pretty good and those all get rebadges, but my opinion of GMC has been settled for about 20 years.

            Next new car I’m eyeing is the EV Equinox. Needs a better heater than the Volt, though.

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              “My opinion of GMC has been settled for about 20 years.”

              All GMC vehicles are just Chevrolet models with a GMC badge! It’s been like that since the 70s, and even then the only difference was that they still had exclusive engines, the rest was the same except for esthetics. Since the 1920s Chevrolet and GM have been using the same platforms.

              Not all Chevrolet models get rebadged, but all GMC models have their Chevrolet equivalent. If you hate GMC your need to hate Chevrolet. They’re. The. Same. Cars!

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            The fuck? I drove a mid-80’s Escort wagon. I raced against my friend’s Chevette once. Pedal to the metal and we still haven’t made it past 40mph.

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      That truck Scout is planning looks really good for anyone in the pickup market.

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      After driving several Chevy vehicles over the years, I’d never buy one myself. Would definitely not trust them to make a good EV.

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        Their volt program was excellent. Gen 1 volts are tanks. I have a gen 1, and gen2. The gen2 has 1 big issues with a free recall to cover it. Still a great car.

        Bolt is good too so far. I got one with a replaced battery from the recall.

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          Well that’s good. I still don’t trust Chevy’s build quality since every one I’ve driven in the last couple decades had problems bad enough for recalls. Also the interior trim of everything just feels cheap to me. We went with a Japanese PHEV instead

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        I feel like these companies have the real nerds who know what they’re doing working on the EVs. I have nothing to back that up with though.

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      Don’t discount the other autos lobbyists. Some have invested heavily in new factories being built and have many more workers in the US combined. Not to mention they can keep selling gas guzzlers till we burn the planet.

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      That quote by Trump’s newest Oversight Member PROVES that there’s NOTHING Swampy going on in Trump’s Government!