We all migrate to smaller websites try not to post outside drawing attention just to hide from the “Ai” crawlers. The internet seems dead except for the few pockets we each know existed away from the clankers
I was thinking the other week about how it’s getting to a point that I would consider a membership fee to access something like lemmy but guaranteed no AI or bots or bullshit advertising.
I know it isn’t possible, but if it was, I’d pay a small fee to have it.
I would prefer a smaller HUMAN internet, over a bigger AI internet.
Absolutely
Back in the days of dial up and bbs this was a problem but you would still get robots trying to connect to modems by dialing every phone number possible.
War dialing! Those were the days. I lived in a city where war dialing was illegal, but that didn’t stop me… maybe that’s just an admission of stupidity though. Definitely had some cool stuff come from it though.
How is Gemini fairing in the existing bot landscape? Usenet?
The last reduct of mankind against the machines? Let’s call it Sion
I think you’re on to something maybe make a movie
Disconnection is the only solution, walled gardens, paid or by invite, that prevent all the shit corporate America fills the commons with.
Paid subs is no good but invite only is a good idea but how do you distinguish invite to a person compared to invite to a bot
You only invite those you know, personally.
Just go outside at that point
I think you can know them personally from online. Ppl you game with or fellow content creators or people in the same hobby spaces etc.
This is something I’m very curious about. It seems like a really necessary utility in the future.
A way for people to validate other people but not totally blow away all privacy. Large group chats, email providers, etc already try to solve it. It would be cool to see some powerful open source tooling. Like what Signal is to E2E encrypted chats.
Is this hopeposting ?
Kinda yeah, it’s what I thought lemmy would be, but more and more it isn’t
Too late, it’s dead!
Yeah it certainly is
Damn, how was this not big headline news?
Well I mean that’s kind of what Lemmy is like since it’s far more niche than something like reddit, but AI crawlers will find it anyway.
AI crawlers don’t even need to crawl individual instances. If someone wanted to scrape Lemmy, it would be way more efficient to simply spin up their own instance and let federation do its thing. Federation is literally a built in way to mass distribute content to a bunch of different servers. So just spin up an instance, set it to not respect delete requests, (so you still get the deleted posts and comments), and scrape it locally. The entire thing could be set up in like 20 minutes, and it would allow for passive data collection instead of requiring active scrapers that run constantly.
I’m sure they’ll use instance killing AI scrapers anyway because they don’t give a shit.
Efficiency is not what AI is known for.
Balkan clearnet. I2p free for all darknet. Neither one pleasant.
And don’t forget freenet!
I’m ready for the return to webrings.
Some sort of F2F network like Retroshare would solve the problem.
There are plenty of alternative Internets. And even just skipping the HTTP protocol is a start. IRC is a great example.
I like this metaphor
Thank you
