Volodymyr Zelensky, in the next phase of talks to end the war in Ukraine, intends to draw a red line at the most contentious issue on the table: the Russian demand for Ukraine’s sovereign territory. As long as he remains the nation’s president, Zelensky will not agree to give up land in exchange for peace, Ukraine’s chief negotiator, Andriy Yermak, told me today in an exclusive interview.

“Not a single sane person today would sign a document to give up territory,” said Yermak, who has served as Zelensky’s chief of staff, lead negotiator, and closest aide throughout the full-scale war with Russia.

“As long as Zelensky is president, no one should count on us giving up territory. He will not sign away territory,” he told me by telephone from Kyiv. “The constitution prohibits this. Nobody can do that unless they want to go against the Ukrainian constitution and the Ukrainian people.”

https://archive.ph/HaMwP

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    If Russia offered back the nuclear weapons Ukraine gave them in the 90s, maybe Ukraine would cede land in exchange.

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    Given that Europe has had 4 years to start cranking up its military power and has failed to do so meaningfully, and the US looks like a vassal state of Russia at the moment, I feel this may become an inevitability if Europeans don’t stop bickering about where exactly gets to make what, and starts actually making things, like with the 2 modern fighter projects (as Europe cannot make its own 5th yet alone 6th gen fighters), or the joint European (France and Germany mainly) tank project.

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      You’re statement would have had more truth to it in 2023 then it does today. Europe is still behind Russia in that regard but Russia committed to fully switching to a wartime economy.

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        Just to be clear, your point and argument, are that I am correct, but I am wrong because exactly as I mentioned, Europe could have done better if they bolstered their defences and prepared?

        It feels like you’ve just taken my comment as an attack on Europe, but have no real criticisms of my points.

        My statement would be less true, not more true in 2023, because the point is, the longer they go without having done so, the more dire the situation becomes.

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      You might want to look into that because Europe absolutely is ramping up its military response.

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        What part about mentioning 3 specific projects as examples of where Europe is not doing enough makes you think that I am not aware of their efforts?

        I am specifically saying those efforts are not enough nor are they soon enough.

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    Russia will come back and take it all, don’t give them an edge. Trump will be on TV whining how Ukraine rejected his really good peace offering.

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      they waited til the right time to take crimea, its almost always a dem president in office before he struck, he miscalculated with ukraine. its the same reason gop ruins the economy, they get blaming points, in this case crimea, ukraine so the reps get re-elected once again, and give russia pass when they are back in power.

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      Russia’s showing signs of desperation anyhow which is why they’re trying to push through an agreement.  They can’t debase the currency much further, they don’t have the reserves or the GDP.  Ukraine is in more the position strength here as they’ve spend their time building alliances which has been aided by Russian actions strengthening the resolve of Europeans.

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        Ah yes, but with Trump bending over backwards to accommodate Putin the Russians needn’t worry.

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          • In 1994, the United States, Russia, and Ukraine signed the Trilateral Statement, under which Ukraine committed to eliminate all nuclear weapons on its territory and join the NPT, in exchange for economic support and security assurances from the United States and Russia.

          Yeah, would have been nice if the word (signature in fact!) of us government had meant anything (we knew russia never lives up to it)

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            Unfortunately, this is just a stark lesson for any other country out there. Do not give up your nuclear weapons no matter what “guarantees” you get.

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            Sounds like the EU needs a nuclear weapon program. At least one warhead in every EU nation, and at least 10 in every bordering Russia.

            And also an autonomous weapon program. Like Project Manhatthan, but for Skynet.

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        If they really felt desperate, wouldn’t they show just a bit more flexibility in their demands?

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        so many of thier fuel stations are hit, its going to start affecting his 2 base of influence, moscow and st.pete, the last thing he wants is those people in the cities complaining,.

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      Because the zone is a wasteland anyways, and the few that live there were pro Russian as far as I remember

      If a part of your country doesn’t want to belong to you anymore, then it shouldn’t (like Taiwan or Hong Kong)

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        The 2014 elections were actually pretty close in those areas. A month later the Russians invaded the Donbas though so there wasn’t any chance to be pro-Ukrainian after that. And then there’s the fact that people tend to not like like invading armies. I’m pretty sure anyone still in the area isn’t a fan of the people shelling them every day.

        Also, it’s not a wasteland, it’s actually a pretty strategic area.

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          in 2014, the ukrainian govt was a pro-russian pm, he fled after the people revolted against him. oh one of trumps former cabinet was working with russia/ukraine at the time too.

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            Yup and then they held snap elections right after. Russia was sore that Ukraine actually supported the pro-EU party and invaded Donbas under the fiction that it was a locally led and staffed rebellion against Kyiv. But there wasn’t enough local support for a rebellion.

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        Wrong, everyone pro Russian stayed or moved to the occupied Donbass area in 2014

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        The vast majority regions that Russia currently occupied/demanding were overwhelmingly pro-Ukrainian (opposing to Russian aggression) before the invasion. Or are you referring the annexation referendum or some vote results made under occupation by foreign military force? If you brutally invade a neighboring country and force its people to make an annexation referendum at gunpoint, surely the result will favor you, and you can invade other countries wherever you want like that.

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        So the U.S should give up Texas every time they get a hair up their ass and holler to secede?

        C’mon dude. Be real.

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          Honestly? I say if Texas voted, let 'em go. Let Abbot even be the Confederate President, then wait until Mexico shows their displeasure.

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        because the zone is a wasteland.

        Only because of Russia. Imagine the implications of that mindset. Just bomb a place to shit them take it.

        the few remaining are pro Russian.

        False. Are you going off what Russia said?! Lol Russia killed, displaced, threatened, and lied about those votes.

        If a part of your country doesn’t want to belong to you anymore, then it shouldn’t

        We already established that’s built on a lie but even if that’s true that’s not a green light for Russia to invade.

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            You believe that an invading army that commits war crimes and comes from a country with no democracy is going to hold free and fair elections? Are you insane?

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              I’m getting USA vibes

              Obviously it is something that means they can’t be fully trusted. Disregarding the results without searching for counter proof is dumb. This region was known for not being very pro Ukraine in the first place

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          Do you have any data suggesting otherwise? Before the invasion, those people weren’t happy with the anti-russian language laws passed by the central government or the fascist militias they wouldn’t stop.

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            Once again, you’re using a gaslighting argument called changing the argument. Russia should be allowed to invade Ukraine because a boarder region wants to leave? Even if that was true, the way Russia is going about claiming the region isn’t justified. If Russia cared so much they wouldn’t have turned the region into a wasteland. They wouldn’t have tried to take the capital. They wouldn’t be launching attacks well past the disputed area. Hell is you want to get specific, Russia wouldn’t have any right Crimea. But I guess you have the dame lies on hand for that region too.

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              Neither side has any interest in the well-being and prosperity of the people living in those regions, I just want the war to stop. Same position I’ve held since 2022 when the lines were mostly where they are, and the peace deal was mostly where it is, but millions were still in their homes and hundreds of thousands still alive.

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                The war ends when Russia respects Ukraine’s original post USSR fracturing boarders agreement because Ukraine had something like 80% of the USSR’s nukes. You want the war to end. STFU.

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                  Russia will never agree to that, so you’re just advocating every last Ukrainian be sent to die in a meat grinder? Maybe if you send the Poles, Germans, and French to die too, Russia will run out of manpower and then you can have your borders.

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      There is no scenario in which Russia gives up control of Crimea. It is simply too strategically important.

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          Is there any serious analysis that anticipates that? I mean, a flurry of meteor strikes could also do it, I suppose.

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            Yes. Their oil production is way down due to the destruction of a lot of their refineries so fuel supplies are running low. They are also unable to produce enough amination for their tanks. So their tanks won’t go and can’t fire, hard to call that winning.

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              They lost a few percentage points of total refining capacity.

              The strikes Ukraine made did disrupt a large percentage of the refineries, that’s true. But the strikes didn’t do a lot of damage and the refineries were brought back onine shortly.

              The total annual production of those refineries was affected. But only something like 3% - 6%.

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                This week there are reports, plus lots of corroborating videos showing orcs running into battle without helmets or armor. They don’t seem to be doing great.

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                  And yet Ukraine can’t seem to defend against them? Russian territory gains have been accelerating over the last 4 weeks. Pretty bad situation if Ukraine can’t defend against unarmored and unarmed soldiers