Russia and the US did not make progress toward a peace deal for Ukraine during their talks, a senior aide to Vladimir Putin has said, hours after the Russian president issued threats that Russia was ready for war with Europe.

In remarks to Russian media, Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov said that after a five-hour meeting with Trump envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, the two sides were “neither further nor closer to resolving the crisis in Ukraine. There is a lot of work to be done.”

The downbeat assessment of Tuesday night’s diplomacy follows combative opening statements from Putin as Witkoff and Kushnerarrived for talks at the Kremlin, in which he accused European powers of sabotaging peace in Ukraine and that “European demands” on ending the war were “not acceptable to Russia”.

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    I watched that part. Putin visibly flinches when he realizes what he said and then for the following few sentences tries to lighten the message down. It’s kinda fun to see him that weak in front a microphone.

    He’s so not ready for a war with Europe that he cannot even lie about it.

    But headline creators don’t give a fuck about that of course.

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      They said they would never attack Ukraine. In fact they’ve written it down and signed it.

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    Oh fucking bring it you cold war-ass Goldeneye dingdong, we’re ready

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      We are not ready though. Mentally, sure, but in case of an all out war we would still run out of ammo, bombs and manpower in weeks. Only now do we see the first factories and production lines coming online based on the investments of the past years and even then not all the supply lines have been adjusted for it. Europe could probably be ready by the end of 2027 at the earliest, provided it removes its command and control dependency from the US.

      Realistically, Europe won’t be ready until 2030. That’s not to say we wouldn’t be able to get ready sooner, we absolutely would, if we were to switch to a war economy. But nobody wants that, because it ruins your economy and is grossly expensive.

      That doesn’t mean we would get crushed, that wouldn’t be the case, but we would be on the defensive for a while until the gears of war are properly greased.

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        All that could very well be true, but Russia has also blown through all their best men, ammo, and gear like 2 years ago at this point. They’ve been using shit from the cold war and north korea and even ww2 tanks in some cases. They’ve forced or bribed every russian man into service they can realistically afford and are using expensive and ill-trained foreign troops who are closer to slaves than soldiers. They’re being issued paintball gear instead of body armor in some cases for goodness sakes. They’ve had to re-insitute the Stalin-era orders that any man refusing to advance or fight will be shot. Russia, like the USSR before it, looks way scary on paper, but is so rotten, corrupt, and hollowed out in reality that it threatens to collapse dramatically at any moment honestly.

        If Russia somehow has enough left in the tank to go toe-to-toe with every European military at the same time, then they should have easily beat Ukraine with such a force at any point in the last 3 years. The fact that they are unable to muster the resources to push over even little Ukraine bodes really really badly for them if more nations get directly involved.

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      The original headline was doctored to make it seem like Putin was threatening Europe with war, and has been changed since (not reflected in the post title as of this comment). Putin’s actual words are some paragraphs into the article:

      “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”

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    He says, as they are press-ganging migrants to fight on the front lines and fabricating evidence in order to seize oligarch fortunes.

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      He did not say what the original headline (post titles) implies. The headline has since then been edited to better reflect Putin’s words: “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”

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      Yeah, anyone seeing this as Putin doing jackshit is kidding themselves.

      This is about having the US attack Europe. Or maybe just Ukraine. Who knows.

      It doesn’t really matter. What matters is that the US is compromised, and Europe needs to be ready for that yesterday.

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        I don’t see an appetite in the states for war with Venezuela, a nation we’ve been conditioned to think of as godless socialists for 20+ years, let alone one with NATO allies. Trump doesn’t have unlimited power, as much as he wishes he does.

        Either way, Europe should be gearing up.

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          I concur that a fight against EU is just completely unlikely, I do think Venezuela is possible since his administration has pretty much been giving free reign and seems to have their heart set on it…

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        I don’t think having the US attack them is in the cards, but I could see them sitting such a conflict out.

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      The original headline was doctored by The Guardian to promote warmongering in Europe, and has been edited since (not reflected on the post title as of my comment). Putin’s actual words were “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”, you can find it inside the article some paragraphs in.

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      OP reproduced in the post title a doctored headline to make Russia sound aggressive. The headline has been modified since, and isn’t reflected in the post title as of my comment. Putin’s original words were “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”.

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    Sounds a lot like the orange fuck stains crying, bow it make sense where he learned it. Hey trump, tru shutting the fuck up and dying, do Americans a favorite

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    well if Russia is as “ready” to fight Europe as it was to fight Ukraine, we have no problem

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      Destroyed lives and whole towns is hardly a “no problem”. russia needs a good kick in the teeth, but these things are never free. I hope Europe is ready to finally stand up.

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    Russia losing to a small country and now think they can take on all of the Europe?

    We know his orange sock puppet has full on dementia, maybe Pootin needs a checkup too?

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      The original headline was heavily doctored to make Putin’s words look much more aggressive, and has been edited since, which isn’t reflected in the post title as of the time of this article. Putin’s actual words are some paragraphs into the article: “Russia does not intend to fight Europe, but if Europe starts, we are ready right now.”

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      You forgot that this ‘small country’ has the second largest military in Europe behind only Russia, and one that was trained by NATO since 2014.

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        When Ukraine was invaded it had an army of approx 150k troops. Several hundred tanks. A couple of hundred aircraft. A couple of hundred rocket projectors.

        None of it newer than the early 90s.

        Russia had nearly a million troops, 12,000 tanks, several thousand aircraft, thousands and thousands of rocket projectors and heavy artillery.

        And nuclear weapons.

        Tell us again how they were evenly matched?

        By any normal metric, Russia should have steamrolled Ukraine. The fact it didnt, even with that huge advantage means that any major european power (UK/France/Germany/Poland) could fend them off quite easily, even alone. But we aren’t alone, Russia would be trying to take us all off the board.