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Ok. So then what about next year when the tarrifs are still in place and fucking over farmers?
Well, hopefully that’s after the midterms and if they don’t like it, well fuck it. Donvict won’t care as long as he has a compliant Congress to kowtow to every bullshit decree he bleats out on his Xitter knockoff.
They will get another “one time” payment again. It’s like stimulus checks but only for his supporters.
True MAGA farmers should reject payouts from the government, because that’s socialism and socialism is BaAaAaD
They should all go to Galt’s Gulch.
No, you see, Socialism is good if it benefits them. But its bad when it benefits people who aren’t them.
Lol yeah right. Ayn fucking Rand didn’t even walk the walk when it came down to it.
Welfare queens.
Seeing this after reading about our military spending approaching one trillion $… It’s a pittance. About 2% of the military budget. And as someone else said, most will be gobbled by corps. What a joke.
Most American Farmers are millionaires. They also voted for Trump.
How about them bootstraps, huh?
So, he’s taking our money that we’re forced to pay due to his stupid tariffs and is using some of it to payoff his supporters who he screwed over with those same tariffs. So, forcing everyone else to clean up his messes. Classic trump.
Sounds like OpenAI and Nvidia’s circular investments.
Or like the arsonist that is also a firefighter.
The human centipede of corruption
Look it’s me, a farmer.
I’m trying to figure out here how much farmland is actually owned by farming families and not corporate entities or corporations operating under the “family” banner while being owned by a family that owns shitloads of farms, but I can’t find an honest answer here and the definition of family seems fucking dubious everywhere I’ve looked.
"What we’re doing is we’re taking a relatively small portion of that [money we made off tariffs], and we’re going to be giving and providing it to the farmers in economic assistance.“
You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the New West. You know… morons.
Howard Johnson is right!
Doctor Samuel Johnson is right about Orson Johnson being right.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Oh they do. This is them taking that fear seriously and consolidating control.
So the argument is that since the executive is collecting the tariffs, it can spend them directly without Congress?
Isn’t the IRS also an executive agency?
Last time I checked they aren’t making any arguments unless they are sued.
Why Trump thinks he can spend any revenue without congressional permission is beyond me. It is clear his administration does not care for the rule of law. They are a criminal organization.
Why do they need payouts?
Probably because they voted for this mess.
So how about them tariff checks for americans I keep hearing about?
We’ll have a concept of a plan in two weeks.
But first: let’s talk more about Gatsby parties and ballrooms…
This is one of the “many ways” we get to see the “rebate”
Well. Trump is using the income from the tariffs to pay the farmers. This is America first at its best. We, the people, pay the tariffs and then that money is used to pay the farmers. The farmers then sale their crops to major corporations. The major corporations the charge us more in the stores to cover the cost of the tariffs we, the people, have to pay. It’s brilliant!!!
Vast majority of this funding will get vacuumed up by corporate farms and continue to leave most small family/independents out to dry
Unless everyone wants to be a farmer, large scale corporate farms are how we have to feed billions.
So then people were just starving to death in the 50’s and 60’s?
I seriously doubt it
We had half the population in the US in 1960, and a bit more than a third of today’s number globally.
And we had none of the efficiency, gmo’s, and a fraction of the available laborers, and were using smaller amounts of land for farming.
Well, then farming made up more than 15% of the work force, today that number is less than 2%. Because large production farms became common.
Sounds like a classic chicken and egg problem. Or circular reasoning.
I’m not so sure that’s true. There is a shit load of land used to grow corn to make ethanol that’s farmed by independent farmers. In the US most farmland is used for soy beans and corn for livestock feed or fuel. It wouldn’t be a simple or cheap undertaking, but that last could be utilized more efficiently to directly or indirectly fees people.
I would also bet there are enough people that would love to be farmers that can’t because land isn’t available or cheap that would step up if large farm operations were broken up. That’s pure speculation, but even if one mega farm were split 4 ways, that would still be an improvement to the current situation.
