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    3 days ago

    That could literally be anyone, yes, also women.

    You can live your life permanently paranoid, or worse, paranoid with prejudice. Or you could grow up.

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          2 days ago

          Sorry mate. You walked into the same “bear trap” I did. Point out the flaw in the argument and you apparently are a public menace 😅

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        3 days ago

        Are you suggesting a woman is comparable to 600+ pounds of killing machine can run 20ish mph? …Or were you just making an assanine example for a bad faith argument.

        Why not just suggest the predator or a wendigo if were going for nonsense. At least we can have fun with it then.

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          It seems more like you’re the one deliberately making a bad-faith argument by feigning ignorance of the meaning of the question, but what the heck, I’ll bite.

          In case you didn’t know, the statement about bear vs stranger is simple: both could be dangerous. But the bear you know at a distance is dangerous, and bears are rather more predictable than humans. The stranger, on the other hand, is far less predictable, and you don’t know if they’re safe or dangerous until you get close.

          After all, she/he could be crazy and carrying a gun, and you don’t need to be a speedy 600lb killing machine to be deadly with one of those.

          And that is why women chose the bear.

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            Bad faith is the example being offered. I simply defined how much nonsense it contained to combat it. OP used that bad example to reinforce their own opinion while leaving somone with the choice of “cake or death.” It is quite literally an argument - being made in bad faith. The answer itself is irrelevant.

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              2 days ago

              No, they didn’t? This literally happens?

              Where in the comic does it say ‘all men do this’? Because that seems to be your interpretation.

              It seems you’re projecting quite a lot onto this comic for some reason, and you’re driven to fight to prove your interpretation of the comic isn’t true. You might want to do some introspection and think about why that is.

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                No, they didn’t? This literally happens?

                Are you genuinely trying to defend using that terrible argument with: “yo but bears and people can be in the woods”

                By that logic I might as well ask somone if they like sardines or would rather be in a plane crash.

                Where in the comic does it say ‘all men do this’? Because that seems to be your interpretation.

                I at no point made such an assertion. I’m sure I know what you think you are referring to…but you go ahead and point out where you think I said that - and I’m happy to discuss it.

                It seems you’re projecting quite a lot onto this comic for some reason, and you’re driven to fight to prove your interpretation of the comic isn’t true.

                Where would I be projecting myself into this comic? Genuinely asking.

                You might want to do some introspection and think about why that is.

                That’s a quite a lofty position you appear to be trying to speak down to me from. I chuckled.

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                  Then why are you everywhere in the comments making all kinds of effort to complain about the artist and the message you see in their work?

                  Seems if we all agree this sort of thing happens to women, now and again, then we have nothing to argue over.

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                    Then why are you everywhere in the comments making all kinds of effort to complain about the artist and the message you see in their work?

                    I’ve stated elsewhere that I have no issue with the bulk of this artists work. Seeing you apparently perused those comments you should have seen that.

                    Seems if we all agree this sort of thing happens to women, now and again, then we have nothing to argue over.

                    That’s precisely what other people, including myself are pointing out here… The issue isn’t the artists poor experience they had… Its the fact so many people are fine with the apparent generalization of “most men” and that result… Which is implied by the 4th panels statement. It wasn’t necessary. It simply paints a group in a bad light for no apparent gain. That’s the issue being brought forward. The backlash to those assessments is… Palpable.

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            I mean it’s a fundamentally different question when you ask it of a man versus a woman. Men are, on average, significantly taller and stronger and faster than women. When you ask that question of a man, it’s a choice between someone that could easily overpower and kill you or someone that you could easily defend yourself against. When you ask that question of a woman, it’s a choice between someone that could easily overpower and kill you, or someone that could easily overpower and kill you, and also likely wants to have sex with you

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              Well yes. But that twat was all up in the ‘not all men!’ and ‘women do bad stuff too!’ so I just opted to make it more gender-neutral so they wouldn’t derail the conversation with inanities again.

              The problem is they found new ones lol. Anything but actually discussing the core issues and their personal issues, I guess.

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            Tbf, if I’m in the woods, I also have a gun, guaranteed. But I also run into men, women, pairs, sometimes whole groups, of people in the woods regularly (as ya do, it’s really not that unusual of an occurrence) and guess what happens most of the time: Nothing. They continue along their trail minding their business, I go off trail to smoke weed and look for cool salamanders. Hell on occasion I’ve smoked the weed with the strangers, and weed is still illegal in my locale. Not once has it been life threatening (that always seems to happen in parking lots so far, ime) or even a generic fight, not even so much as a squabble nor an argument (unless I brought my friend who says Dragon Ball sucks but he’s WRONG!)

            If I’m guaranteed a fight, and know I’ll be in bear country so I can have an appropriate gun? I’d choose the bear for the simple fact that talking to that game warden is going to be easier than convincing 12 jurors a woman just came at me with a gun in the woods, sure.

            But if I’m not guaranteed a fight? Experience has shown me that more likely than fight, the stranger will politely nod and keep moving, or smoke a J with me, maybe even one they brought. I’ll choose the people.

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        I’m struggling to find the context of this comment, but I want to know where it’s going. Personally I would rather encounter a woman. What point are you making?