Just be honest…to the potentially dangerous PoS who might attack you, follow you home, stalk you, worse…
That could literally be anyone, yes, also women.
You can live your life permanently paranoid, or worse, paranoid with prejudice. Or you could grow up.
You’re in the woods, alone.
Would you rather encounter a woman, or a bear?
So… What exactly are you comparing to the bear? The woman or the man?
Sorry mate. You walked into the same “bear trap” I did. Point out the flaw in the argument and you apparently are a public menace 😅
Are you suggesting a woman is comparable to 600+ pounds of killing machine can run 20ish mph? …Or were you just making an assanine example for a bad faith argument.
Why not just suggest the predator or a wendigo if were going for nonsense. At least we can have fun with it then.
It seems more like you’re the one deliberately making a bad-faith argument by feigning ignorance of the meaning of the question, but what the heck, I’ll bite.
In case you didn’t know, the statement about bear vs stranger is simple: both could be dangerous. But the bear you know at a distance is dangerous, and bears are rather more predictable than humans. The stranger, on the other hand, is far less predictable, and you don’t know if they’re safe or dangerous until you get close.
After all, she/he could be crazy and carrying a gun, and you don’t need to be a speedy 600lb killing machine to be deadly with one of those.
And that is why women chose the bear.
Bad faith is the example being offered. I simply defined how much nonsense it contained to combat it. OP used that bad example to reinforce their own opinion while leaving somone with the choice of “cake or death.” It is quite literally an argument - being made in bad faith. The answer itself is irrelevant.
No, they didn’t? This literally happens?
Where in the comic does it say ‘all men do this’? Because that seems to be your interpretation.
It seems you’re projecting quite a lot onto this comic for some reason, and you’re driven to fight to prove your interpretation of the comic isn’t true. You might want to do some introspection and think about why that is.
No, they didn’t? This literally happens?
Are you genuinely trying to defend using that terrible argument with: “yo but bears and people can be in the woods”
By that logic I might as well ask somone if they like sardines or would rather be in a plane crash.
Where in the comic does it say ‘all men do this’? Because that seems to be your interpretation.
I at no point made such an assertion. I’m sure I know what you think you are referring to…but you go ahead and point out where you think I said that - and I’m happy to discuss it.
It seems you’re projecting quite a lot onto this comic for some reason, and you’re driven to fight to prove your interpretation of the comic isn’t true.
Where would I be projecting myself into this comic? Genuinely asking.
You might want to do some introspection and think about why that is.
That’s a quite a lofty position you appear to be trying to speak down to me from. I chuckled.
I mean it’s a fundamentally different question when you ask it of a man versus a woman. Men are, on average, significantly taller and stronger and faster than women. When you ask that question of a man, it’s a choice between someone that could easily overpower and kill you or someone that you could easily defend yourself against. When you ask that question of a woman, it’s a choice between someone that could easily overpower and kill you, or someone that could easily overpower and kill you, and also likely wants to have sex with you
Well yes. But that twat was all up in the ‘not all men!’ and ‘women do bad stuff too!’ so I just opted to make it more gender-neutral so they wouldn’t derail the conversation with inanities again.
The problem is they found new ones lol. Anything but actually discussing the core issues and their personal issues, I guess.
Tbf, if I’m in the woods, I also have a gun, guaranteed. But I also run into men, women, pairs, sometimes whole groups, of people in the woods regularly (as ya do, it’s really not that unusual of an occurrence) and guess what happens most of the time: Nothing. They continue along their trail minding their business, I go off trail to smoke weed and look for cool salamanders. Hell on occasion I’ve smoked the weed with the strangers, and weed is still illegal in my locale. Not once has it been life threatening (that always seems to happen in parking lots so far, ime) or even a generic fight, not even so much as a squabble nor an argument (unless I brought my friend who says Dragon Ball sucks but he’s WRONG!)
If I’m guaranteed a fight, and know I’ll be in bear country so I can have an appropriate gun? I’d choose the bear for the simple fact that talking to that game warden is going to be easier than convincing 12 jurors a woman just came at me with a gun in the woods, sure.
But if I’m not guaranteed a fight? Experience has shown me that more likely than fight, the stranger will politely nod and keep moving, or smoke a J with me, maybe even one they brought. I’ll choose the people.
I’m struggling to find the context of this comment, but I want to know where it’s going. Personally I would rather encounter a woman. What point are you making?
You got to include the part where the guy is, on average, significantly taller and stronger than you, and has already made clear that he wants to have sex with you
Why the flying fuck is it censored? Do advertisers really have our balls in a vice that much? It says bitch slut.
As he’s dressed like Gary from Pokemon, I heard this all in his egotistical voice.
“Sorry” = not honest
She deserved to be called a birch salient
“Sorry” = an attempt to be polite. What’s the better response? Is just a straight “No thanks” going to go over better?
Genuinely asking, what’s the best way to reject a date offer if, “Sorry, not interested” is the wrong response?
I wasn’t really being serious but I would say, yes
Sorry = something has gone wrong
No thanks = I’m not interested in an offer but also not apologizing for my actions
Anybody who responds to rejection this way will likely handle it poorly no matter what but don’t frame it as your own failure
If you made me some food, and I said: “I’m sorry, but I really do not like the taste of this food.” that would be a polite way of saying to you: “I would rather I did like this food, because I like you as a person. But because of my respect for you, I am being honest. I do not like the food.”
Once I got that exact response from my friend’s hot sister and I believe she honestly meant it. I think she saw the embarrassment on my face. Neither of us wanted to make it any more awkward.
If you ask for a direct answer, you don’t get to punish the person for giving it.
This feels like rage bait.
I’m not enraged, this doesn’t apply to me. But there are assholes who do this shit.
Not really. Just on the nose with no real attempt at humor or subtlety. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong, though.
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Looks more like virtue-signalling to me. Those out-raged aren’t the intended audience, they’re the punch-line.
I just would like to see the gender discussion not focused solely on the worst of men.
is this even the real problem adults have in the real world?
I’ve seen enough other dudes have interactions with women similar to what this comic depicts that I’m not going to bitch about it just because I’ve never responded that way to rejection. There’s lots of trash people in this world.
Imagine this being a revelation.
the revelation is that there are actually mature enough people to admit this is real problem instead of getting defensive, whatabouting, or gaslighting the other person
There’s nothing mature about enabling a person’s prejudices or delusions.
what i meant to convey was its difficult to find men who don’t think this is a revelation. i.e it would be hard to find a dude who isn’t offended by a rejection.
Ok, but as far as I’m aware very few people, regardless of gender, take rejection well.
Nothing about that comment indicates it’s a revelation. It sounds more like long experience than sudden realization.
Ayyy thanks for being an understanding person, it’s appreciated
I wish I can go a day without hating myself for being a man.
You could have posted anything else but you had to post rage bait. Nice.
all this account does is post ragebait, no comments at all…maybe some kind of bot account?
This only enrages the scummy dudes who do this shit
3 days old too. Absolutely just a rage bait account.
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We men should work on handling rejection. I learned it the hard way, but shouldn’t be like that.
I’ve seen guys like this but I don’t get it. Why get angry that someone isn’t into you? Just move on. Geez. Like, do you think she will change her mind if you insult her? What’s the logic here? Just a bruised ego? Little man syndrome?
What’s the logic here? Just a bruised ego?
Yes, coupled with a lack of maturity—a bruised ego alone does not a ridiculous rejection response make.
It’s the exact same reason women do it, when they do. There are plenty of posts on the ‘nice girls’ subreddit over the years of a woman doing the exact same ‘you’re ugly anyway’ nonsense as an immediate reaction to rejection.
This is a human phenomenon, not a male one.
The comic is pure ragebait or the artist is presenting an opinion in bad faith… Or both.
I’ve had women approach me in the past and gotten similar reactions when they were turned down. People can be vile and entitled… and I fail to see how any sex is claiming some sort of moral high ground here.
Do my select experiences mean all women now are defaulted to that expected behavior? Of course not. I have enough common sense to know otherwise. Unfortunately, it appears that some are willing to subscribe to the bad faith argument of: “one bad apple means all apples are rotten.” Its nonsense and a bit depressing to see them getting positive reinforcement for that behavior.
Edit: it appears that struck a nerve. Logic be damned 😅
i do wish people cared less about saving face/protecting feelings though…i’m really bad at reading some social ques (high-functioning autistic/adhd combo)
for example, recently asked a woman out in a kinda passive “if your ever bored or whatever, maybe we could see a movie or something here’s my number” way, and got “thanks” as response (nothing else, just thanks). my brain assumes “oh, she might be interested but maybe i just came off as boring with that approach”. so then i try again little over a week later, more direct this time with actual interesting date in mind that I know she would enjoy and get “thanks” again, but she doesn’t show. So now i’m thinking “well…is she just not interested at all, and just being nice” or did (insert any dozen of scenarios that would/could impact her availability happen, i did kinda spring it on em last minute maybe they just couldn’t show on such short notice)?
do i try a third time, and just go “alright…i’m kinda autistic, can you just be really blunt with me here and say your already in a relationship/not interested for whatever reason, or say yes and pick the date/place yourself?..because i’m gonna keep on coming here since it’s part of my routine now and i don’t want you getting uncomfortable thinking maybe i’m obsessed with you”? (some people in the city be weird, the thought occured to me this woman might just always have her guard up…being from the city).
sure, realistically she’s probably just not interested/available, having my number from first ask she could just text me, but if she already threw it away by 2nd ask that showed i’m not complete square…got to ask 3rd time to be 100% sure, right?
all of this could be avoided if people just said what they mean instead of “thanks”
If she were interested, and she could not make the time work, she would have given you a counter proposal.
Unless you either keep pushing for dates or radically change your behavior toward her, she’s unlikely to think you’re obsessed with her or a creep. Go back to how you were behaving before you asked her the first time.
She’s not interested.
I’m assuming you identify/present male? If so, she is afraid of openly rejecting a man. There’s an old ‘joke’ that would be funnier if it was less true: men are afraid women will laugh at them; women are afraid men will kill them.
Trust me, you would get a lot more than ‘thanks’ if she was in to you.
i’m really bad at reading some social ques (high-functioning autistic/adhd combo)
I feel ya. Like all things - sometimes we need to adjust how we handle situations to improve our control on them.
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So nobody is psychic and if you can’t read social cues that can make it harder but from my perspective: id say you made your move - let her work out the rest. You can’t/shouldn’t force it… Even if you feel like you bombed the whole thing… If you two had chemistry and she was interested shed reach out.
Generically - Approach somone you are interested in the same way you’d approach a potential friend you wanted to hang out with. If you’re interacting and have a common interest… Find a thing you’d want to do and offer to meet them there (specific thing/place/time.) If they can’t but are interested they will often suggest something else. If not respect their apparent decision and just roll with it. Its up to you how you’d want to interact following that … But keep it classy and dont force the issue.
sure, realistically she’s probably just not interested/available, having my number from first ask she could just text me, but if she already threw it away by 2nd ask that showed i’m not complete square…got to ask 3rd time to be 100% sure, right?
That isn’t really something you’d want to do, personally speaking. Its hard putting yourself out there - but respect yourself enough to not appear needy. That will drive people away from you in a hurry.
Again, with regard to her response - I’d interpret it as: “thanks, I appreciate the interest - but I’m not interested/available.”
Absolutely, it’d be easier for you to grasp if she spelled that out… But it takes a certain amount of effort to turn somone down too. So she may be shy, not great at it, etc. It also depends on the situation / where this is occurring.
If you gave her your number and didn’t get a text - chances are good she was just passively rejecting the advance. No shame in that. Not all advances and attempts end in success… The important thing is you took the shot and tried.
hmm, still kind of worried she might think i’m just some weirdo stalking/obsessed with her though. its…it’s a whole foods, i have specific dietary requirement and they’re the only real store in area that meets them, then i just kind of hangout at the cafe area for awhile, do some writing and stuff. now it’s just kind of routine for me. I noticed she always looked depressed as fuck (who wouldnt be, working retail/chain-store type place)
can’t help but think she’s probably thinking…what kinda dude hangs out at a fucking whole foods of all places?
figure if there’s any shot at all, getting the whole autism thing out there might be a “ooooh, yeah that explains alot”-moment… and atleast that way she might not be worried about me being some kind of creep. (i have noticed these side-long glances back into the store directly at me as she leaves, a sort of “is this fucker gonna try and follow me home”-look. again, tatted up city girl, she probably has her guard up all the way all the time).
this is just how my AuADHD brain works, i consider everything all the time. not obsessed with her, just…considering all possible scenarios.
edit/ spelling it all out, one scenario I hadnt considered. seeing as I have made my interest clear…if i keep on showing up to this place and doing my thing, if she’s interested/available (and maybe she did throw my # away early) then eventually she should be the one to reach out to me, right?
Again, I understand the desire but you’ve got to remember that she’s at work. She can’t leave if you make it awkward. Nobody is stopping you from still doing what you do there… Writing or what have you. If you see her there’s nothing wrong with a smile and a nod… But let her do her thing. If she wants to swing by and chat she will. Same thing with the number. Gotta respect her choice and the fact shes at work doing her job.
Like I mentioned earlier: keep it classy.
Please don’t do that. If a woman told me she’s interested in me, I’d either lock up or vanish into the ether.
