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from my wife - we sit in front of a computer all damn day. we don’t want to sit in front of a computer all damn night too. we want to sit down in front of our TV and play games together in the evening. we just want it to work. we’ve built PCs and we have no interest in cobbling something together and supporting it for it’s lifetime. don’t act like that doesn’t come with a huge cost of time.
100% This, I work in IT all day. The last thing I want to do with my personal time is build and support a home built machine attached to my TV that my kids or wife will use to watch Netflix or play a few games. Especially if I am out of town and something stops working.
That’s why I own a PlayStation and pay a premium for their games on an inferior platform compared to PC. It generally just works with out me having to fuck with it all the time. I’d get a Steam box for the same reason.
I have game consoles, but I don’t use them regularly. Every time I turn them on, they want an hour of updates and a password reset just to use the dvd player.
A PC just works.
I bet a Steam Machine would just work too, because Valve aren’t as incompetent as the competition.
Sounds like because you don’t use those devices regularly they don’t get a chance to download updates. When you finally do turn them on after long periods being off they have a lot of downloads to do and your password has expired (My Xbox can be very frustrating when it comes to passwords)… PCs will perform the same way in the same circumstances.
But consoles do update and start working after a password reset, fewer choices and a curated environment means the non technically oriented like the rest of my family can get it up and running without bugging me.
Consoles are probably just not your cup of tea and that’s ok! 👍
PCs do not just work. They require updates a lot more than your average game console especially if you’re cursed to use Windows.
I can use my PC’s DVD player while I wait for sudo pacman -Syu, or I can even not update it at all if I want. I can do the thing I wanted to do and then update it when I’m done.
…it doesn’t come with a huge cost of time. Literally no idea what the fuck you’re talking about. Where is the time cost?
You just buy a new PC every time you have a driver issue, huh?
Driver issue??
That would necessitate doing things other than playing video games on your pc
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An hdmi extender, routing a cable, and getting some wireless peripherals (which you’d need anyway) is a huge cost of time?
Unless you live in a mansion, I guess…
I like the steam box but idk
All this tells me is you don’t frequently mess with your computer enough to break it.
I want a steam box because my PC is always in some state of me fucking with it. I don’t want that to get in the way of my gaming.
I used to have my PC plugged in to my TV, steam box style, but it’s back on my desk now… with a long ass HDMI cable running to that TV so I get the best of both worlds. Steam box is definitely cool, I don’t understand the hate for it. Sometimes I think people are just whiners.
Yea that thing is rad. I’m thinking I’ll get it for my nephew someday if they release a new version when he’s old enough to play.
Either that or I torture him with Linux Mint and Lutris I haven’t decided yet.
??? What are you on about? Stop breaking your shit and then acting like the issue is the fact that it’s a PC and not the fact that you’re actively choosing to mess with it?
Like, what is breaking in the first place?
I LIKE breaking my shit. I don’t like missing my games. Steam machine is an easy answer.
Why would you not expect to be fucking with your steam box? Also I’m not even anti-steam box, I’m glad it’s your solution, but again: why?
Bro probably broke his first RAM tab holder because he thought only one of them opens
Baby steps
Lol yea okay I just opened up my DAD’S laptop yesterday to clean it. I went as far as taking apart the fan to clean it properly, and the quirky M.2 setup in his T470p as well, just to get everything out. I also just bought a “broken” webcam, and fixed it for my own use.
But I dON’t mESs WiTH mY coMPutER eNOuGh
I’m just…not a dummy
If your personal PC is always on working order, then I still claim you don’t do enough. Maybe you’re great. Be greater.
Nice ragebait tbh you got me
Covid, the wire company makes a wireless 4k HDMI extender, the EHW-200. There’s a 1080 one too, the EHW-100 for half the cost. Plug and play, no app. They’re pretty cool.
What is the latency on that?
I just used a $30 HDMI balun and a single patch cable to connect the Ethernet running from Living Room to PC. Just removed the router from the connection between the two and it works fantastic. No latency issues and Cat6 is more than capable.
I actually don’t know, our customers use them for presenting mostly. We usually use the HDMI over HDBaseT. I actually don’t know all the specs, I am in the Procurement side, they just send me lists to order. I just saw the wireless units and thought they were pretty slick.
EDIT looked it up 90-120ms a bit laggy, probably not good for gaming.
You can literally just move the computer? I have a computer in my living room. In fact that is where it stays all day everyday.
But if you don’t want to physically move it. You can run a single fiber optic cable, or if you have Ethernet - connect a balun at the PC and at the TV…
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If Dell will make a $500+ computer that can just hook up to whatever screen you have and allow you to play vast majority of all the games ever, they will be instantly industry leaders. They can’t though. Valve, however, can.
Aren’t hard drives through the roof on price suddenly because of AI boxes and aren’t games as chonky as heck right now? They are coming out at 150gb lately.
Building a pc is not cheap.
It’s got what PvsZ craves.
I like the idea that it’s a targetable hardware profile personally.
Bro have you seen the prices for storage, graphics cards, memory? I’ll take 2 Steam whatever shape it is.
Meh. You can’t beat the economy of scale with boutique retail PC part prices. That said, you’re probably going to get the min quality for specified performance.
It is so bizarre that even when something like this is announced, a unique phenomenon in gaming and modern pc history, which is sure to make a lot of pc linux converts because of its accessibility, the pc linux masterrace is still being gatekeeping about it.
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If nothing else, I’d be absolutely down to do what In did when I got my deck and wait for a refurnished model to be sold before purchasing, if it’s actually good like deck is IMO. Then, since it should work just fine with at least the modified Arch based SteamOS, probably see about replacing SteamOS with something other gaming focused distro, more as an experiment than anything else.
Funny meme, but I would genuinely worry for the people who don’t understand the value proposal of a pre-built, console-like PC for Steam gaming. We will see if it’s worth it based on price and specs later, but the logic is definitely there, especially with MS, Sony and Nintendo dropping the ball so much.
Have they announced a price yet?
I’ll just repost the same comment I wrote the first time someone posted this meme:
It’s a small form factor PC, pre-installed with Linux and steam. Period.
Can you build something more powerful cheaper? Probably
Can you build something more powerful with the same form factor for cheaper? Maybe, probably not… We don’t know.
All of those are beside the point.
They sell millions of desktop PCs pre-installed with windows, they often make terrible hardware choices, and don’t even have a small form factor, if they do they have the computing power of a laptop. All of this at an unreasonable prices. At the very least the steam machine will be better value than those. Anyone who would consider one of those PCs, might consider a steam machine instead.
I remember that guy on hacker news who said Dropbox would never take off because he could build something similar with rsync. He’s not wrong, people who looked for something rsync could solve continued just use rsync. Meaning, people who want to build a PC for less will continue to build a PC less. The Steam Box isn’t for people who want to build a pc for less, though.
I can build a PC for cheaper
How the flying fuck would you know? The price for the SM hasn’t been announced yet and at the same time parts are increasing in price by a pretty huge margin.
