You’re missing a crucial point: that the system is rotten doesn’t excuse the rotten people perpetuating it and you can’t dismantle the system while keeping the people propping it up in place.
Just because you have a close friend who’s a unicorn doesn’t mean that the horses aren’t shitting all over the place and kicking the other animals in the head at every opportunity. Or that the farmers and the industry organizations encouraging that behavior shouldn’t be replaced by something better.
That mixed metaphor REALLY got away from me, but I’m fine with that as long as the meaning got across 🤷
Systems create behavior. Whoever enables, maintains, and protects the system is the real culprit. And going after who these folks stand up as straw men isn’t going to solve anything.
These folks will go through a rotating door of CEOs with no end of supply to get what they want. It’s like trying to play whack a mole with 1 hammer and a million moles.
Spending our time and attention on straw men enables those who actually have impact to continue what they’re doing without obstruction.
You and I don’t disagree that change is needed it seems, we just disagree on method a bit. I’ve been far enough to the executive ladder for multiple companies to know that CEOs have very little power and are frequently replaced for even the slightest blip.
Hell even murdering a CEO that’s gotten national press hasn’t moved the needle, because it was never the CEO who set the stage to begin with. It’s like murdering your car mechanic because your Chevrolet is so poorly designed that the front end has to be removed to replace the lightbulbs and charges you an arm and a leg to do it. Not a perfect metaphor for sure but the point is it’s not the mechanics fault they need to go through so much labor to change the bulb and thus charge for $500 in labor for a light bulb change.
As another commentator mentioned the case of Dodge vs Ford was an iconic case that can be argued set the stage for where we are today. Which I largely blame Ford for how he handled the case and his paper thin arguments for his actions.
You’re missing a crucial point: that the system is rotten doesn’t excuse the rotten people perpetuating it and you can’t dismantle the system while keeping the people propping it up in place.
I think you’re making GPs point. However, “the people propping up the system” aren’t just CEOs. This is proven by the fact that a CEO trying to act in a better way is removed. It all comes down to Dodge Vs Ford Motor Co.. The people in power are shareholders and they are the hedge funds of wall street.
Nope. There you go artificially shrinking the issue again. Shareholder power IS a significant part of the problem, of course, but it’s not the entire problem.
The people in power are shareholders and they are the hedge funds of wall street.
Those are other parts of the whole system we need to get rid of, yes. Still doesn’t mean that abusive horses CEOs are powerless or that it isn’t beneficial to get rid of them.
You’re missing a crucial point: that the system is rotten doesn’t excuse the rotten people perpetuating it and you can’t dismantle the system while keeping the people propping it up in place.
Just because you have a close friend who’s a unicorn doesn’t mean that the horses aren’t shitting all over the place and kicking the other animals in the head at every opportunity. Or that the farmers and the industry organizations encouraging that behavior shouldn’t be replaced by something better.
That mixed metaphor REALLY got away from me, but I’m fine with that as long as the meaning got across 🤷
Systems create behavior. Whoever enables, maintains, and protects the system is the real culprit. And going after who these folks stand up as straw men isn’t going to solve anything.
These folks will go through a rotating door of CEOs with no end of supply to get what they want. It’s like trying to play whack a mole with 1 hammer and a million moles.
Spending our time and attention on straw men enables those who actually have impact to continue what they’re doing without obstruction.
You and I don’t disagree that change is needed it seems, we just disagree on method a bit. I’ve been far enough to the executive ladder for multiple companies to know that CEOs have very little power and are frequently replaced for even the slightest blip.
Hell even murdering a CEO that’s gotten national press hasn’t moved the needle, because it was never the CEO who set the stage to begin with. It’s like murdering your car mechanic because your Chevrolet is so poorly designed that the front end has to be removed to replace the lightbulbs and charges you an arm and a leg to do it. Not a perfect metaphor for sure but the point is it’s not the mechanics fault they need to go through so much labor to change the bulb and thus charge for $500 in labor for a light bulb change.
As another commentator mentioned the case of Dodge vs Ford was an iconic case that can be argued set the stage for where we are today. Which I largely blame Ford for how he handled the case and his paper thin arguments for his actions.
I think you’re making GPs point. However, “the people propping up the system” aren’t just CEOs. This is proven by the fact that a CEO trying to act in a better way is removed. It all comes down to Dodge Vs Ford Motor Co.. The people in power are shareholders and they are the hedge funds of wall street.
No, I’m expounding on mine in order to illustrate that his is too limited.
I KNOW. Hence the farmers and industry associations in my tortured mixed metaphor.
Which is a unicorn that doesn’t excuse the behavior of the horses.
Nope. There you go artificially shrinking the issue again. Shareholder power IS a significant part of the problem, of course, but it’s not the entire problem.
Those are other parts of the whole system we need to get rid of, yes. Still doesn’t mean that abusive
horsesCEOs are powerless or that it isn’t beneficial to get rid of them.