• theneverfox@pawb.social
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      You’d think so, but no. Project 2025 can be traced back through the heritage foundation to the Technocracy movement, which was a bunch of proto-tech bros like Elon’s Grandpa

      They thought they were the smartest little guys and so they should control all aspects of society. They wanted to carve the world up into economic zones, and they wanted America’s to be from the Panama canal to the artic, including Greenland, so they could control shipping through the artic and across the Atlantic

      They were really big about shipping lanes, which is why South Africa randomly comes up too

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        I hadn’t known about that angle, thank you!

        The imperialism in it, though, … incompatible with civil-rights, obviously…

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          Oh trust me, it gets so much worse than the imperialism…

          Their plan was basically like “what if tech-bros min-maxed absolutely everything, North Korea style?”

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      Trump intends to completely cut-off Canada’s trade, Alaska, Pacific, mainland, Atlantic, Greenland ( a base ), so that he can butcher Canada, & successfully annex it, just like Putin wants Ukraina: for subjugated possession.

      He isn’t joking about his “Department of War”:

      He’ll be waging war on 3 fronts: northward, enforcing his annexing of Canada,

      Civil War Part2, once he “de-naturalizes” all non-Republicans, making everybody not in his cult into illegals,

      AND war to the south, Mexico, Panama, Venezuela, etc, as his imperialism “needs” to be doing…


      The only obstacle left is the portion of his brain which fights-against absolute-psychopathy, & when that portion of his brain fails, in a “stroke”, if the psychopathy wins, the ocean-of-blood begins spilling.

      Prep.

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    The demand has been made- we are going to see his little temper tantrum any day now.

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    American here. I’m sure annexing Greenland would be very useful to us for all kinds of reasons. I don’t want to do it.

    Unless the people in Greenland want to become part of the United States, I don’t believe we have any more right to declare Greenland ours than Hitler had a right to declare France his, or Russia has a right to declare Ukraine theirs.

    If the people of Greenland want to become part of the United States, verified with an election monitored by multiple disinterested third parties, then by all means welcome to the party guys.

    However given the timing of this ridiculous idea, I can’t help but think the whole thing is just a distraction from the Epstein files.

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      Yeah, if we really need anything from it we should work with the Greenlandic people and the Danes to find a mutually agreeable solution. Annexing territories of allies is evil and fucking stupid.

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      There has been leaks that US intelligence are making moves to influence the greenlandic people using intelligence gathering to find pro secession and US elements in greenland. Any talk of the possibility of greenland joining the US as a real possibility only legitimizes an eventual takeover. Greenland has made it clear that they are not interested and that such talk is an insult and a threat to their sovereignty and self governance, current and future. I don’t think you mean to promote Trumps talking points, so this is just meant to let you know that it indirectly does.

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        Pro succession movement in Greenland? I very much doubt it. They can influence all they want, and if they are that only shows imho that they fundamentally misunderstand how other countries work.

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      Unless the people in California want to secede from the United States

      I wonder how you USians would respond to that.

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        Given that it is a part of our mainland continent, I would be less enthusiastic than if, say, Hawaii or Alaska wanted to secede.

        Nonetheless, self-determination is a solidly American value. If an overwhelming majority of Californians wanted to leave the union, then in general I believe the rest of the country should let them. Otherwise we are forcing them to be subject to a national government they don’t want.

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            I doubt it very much also. But I am saying in concept, if the vast majority of the people in one place don’t want to be a part of the country they are part of, in general they should be allowed to leave.

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      He’s committed to his imperial continent-kingdom:

      His intent to annex Canada’s real.

      WITH Alaska AND Greenland, he can kill all ships bringing supplies to Canada…

      He’s going to be waging war on 3 fronts: northward, Civil War Part2, & southward, once he “de-naturalizes” all non-Republicans, converting all outside his cult into “illegals”…

      His enmity against NATO has been visible for over a decade, btw…

      https://www.lee.senate.gov/2025/6/lee-introduces-withdrawal-from-nato is independent of Trump, but it does communicate that NATO isn’t safe, now…

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      That’s a very slippery slope. I am sure there are parts of Latvia that would happily join Russia. Or parts of US that would like to cede from the union. This is all but easy.

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      Americans also need to have a referendum to allow Greenland to join and Denmark needs to have a referendum to let them go as well, if it is too be all above board, as Greenland is subject to the Danish government.

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      until consent is properly manufactured, like with venezuelan oil.