Oh, so you have no actual data and the entire analysis you’re making is based on western + francoist anticommunist peopaganda! “The fucking evil judeobolsheviks ruined anarchism in Spain!!! Numbers? I don’t have any, why do you ask?” You could have started there buddy
I honestly have no idea what numbers you are asking for, I said that in the middle of a fight against actual fascists, the antifascists had secured Barcelona and most of Catalonia, and the Moscow-backed party was ordered to fight the antifascists instead of the fascists… it wasn’t just the anarchists, there were several marxist organizations as well, they were outlawed by the Soviets and their leaders arrested or killed, and you can find it even in your party-approved documents because those are historical facts… I’m really sorry that they don’t sound so cool and glorious as all the party propaganda. I’m gonna change what I said, it’s not sad that you don’t know the history of antifascist resistance in your on country. It’s pathetic.
I asked for what I want very clearly: a list or at least some well sourced numbers on the number of repressed by specifically the Soviet Red Terror in Spain. That would give us an idea of the magnitude of Soviet involvement in the whole thing. Latest data from 2020 shows that a whopping 20 people were confirmed killed by a total of 10 Soviet agents. At least some of these anarchists have been confirmed to have ties to Nazi intelligence and plan a rebellion in Barcelona, as evidenced by Orlov’s own documents and by the Nazi’s documents on the execution of Harro Schulze-Boysen. Whether these anarchists were collaborating with Nazis on purpose or unknowingly isn’t known, but the fact is that Nazis actively wanted anarchist rebellion in Republican Spain.
The Soviet involvement in Spanish republican politics during the civil war is vastly magnified by francoist Judeo-Bolshevism propaganda, and is a convenient way to ignore the fact that without Soviet weapons, the Republicans would have been smashed from day 1. But sure, keep focusing your criticisms on the only country supplying and training the partisans, and not on western liberal democracies ignoring the Spanish civil war under the guise of “non-intervention” while the Nazis bombed the shit out of the antifascists.
Everyone is collaborating with nazis and whatever, except the ones literally shaking hands, taking pictures, and doing military parades and dividing new conquered territories with the nazis. Brainwashing party propaganda is really something.
I’m sorry dude, I can’t really do anything for you, it’s pathetic that you never cared to look at the history of the CNT-FAI, to believe it was the Soviets arming and training militias. They only armed and trained their puppet party and used it to destabilize that antifascist resistance amidst the fight against fascists… You had a fascist regime in your country until 1978 and you spout bullshit like “they saved Europe from fascism” lol
I’m disengaging here. But I hope one day you really do read anything beyond the pathetic party propaganda. Burnett Bolloten was a journalist aligned with the PCE living in Barcelona during the Civil War; he actually supported the PCE until he saw what it was doing, but I know the party cult tells everyone that doesn’t repeat everything the party cult says is a CIA agent, so it’s up to you to become critical or just blindly follow the cult. Augustin Souchy and Emma Goldman were also there at the time and wrote extensively about the subject, and those weren’t even CNT-FAI members but only supporters.
The fact is that everywhere a non-Bolshevik-aligned antifascist revolutionary force arose, the bolsheviks spent their resources crushing it instead of fighting the fascists.
You don’t get to disengage after writing a whole ass PDF document and calling me pathetic, thats not how disengage works.
Just so you see who actually supported the Soviets:
Signed by fucking Dolores Ibarruri herself.
But sure, the Bolsheviks are the literal Judeo-Bolshevism conspiracy with infinite power controlling politics everywhere in the world. Keep your conspiracy theories alive, buddy.
Oh, so you have no actual data and the entire analysis you’re making is based on western + francoist anticommunist peopaganda! “The fucking evil judeobolsheviks ruined anarchism in Spain!!! Numbers? I don’t have any, why do you ask?” You could have started there buddy
I honestly have no idea what numbers you are asking for, I said that in the middle of a fight against actual fascists, the antifascists had secured Barcelona and most of Catalonia, and the Moscow-backed party was ordered to fight the antifascists instead of the fascists… it wasn’t just the anarchists, there were several marxist organizations as well, they were outlawed by the Soviets and their leaders arrested or killed, and you can find it even in your party-approved documents because those are historical facts… I’m really sorry that they don’t sound so cool and glorious as all the party propaganda. I’m gonna change what I said, it’s not sad that you don’t know the history of antifascist resistance in your on country. It’s pathetic.
I asked for what I want very clearly: a list or at least some well sourced numbers on the number of repressed by specifically the Soviet Red Terror in Spain. That would give us an idea of the magnitude of Soviet involvement in the whole thing. Latest data from 2020 shows that a whopping 20 people were confirmed killed by a total of 10 Soviet agents. At least some of these anarchists have been confirmed to have ties to Nazi intelligence and plan a rebellion in Barcelona, as evidenced by Orlov’s own documents and by the Nazi’s documents on the execution of Harro Schulze-Boysen. Whether these anarchists were collaborating with Nazis on purpose or unknowingly isn’t known, but the fact is that Nazis actively wanted anarchist rebellion in Republican Spain.
The Soviet involvement in Spanish republican politics during the civil war is vastly magnified by francoist Judeo-Bolshevism propaganda, and is a convenient way to ignore the fact that without Soviet weapons, the Republicans would have been smashed from day 1. But sure, keep focusing your criticisms on the only country supplying and training the partisans, and not on western liberal democracies ignoring the Spanish civil war under the guise of “non-intervention” while the Nazis bombed the shit out of the antifascists.
Everyone is collaborating with nazis and whatever, except the ones literally shaking hands, taking pictures, and doing military parades and dividing new conquered territories with the nazis. Brainwashing party propaganda is really something.
I’m sorry dude, I can’t really do anything for you, it’s pathetic that you never cared to look at the history of the CNT-FAI, to believe it was the Soviets arming and training militias. They only armed and trained their puppet party and used it to destabilize that antifascist resistance amidst the fight against fascists… You had a fascist regime in your country until 1978 and you spout bullshit like “they saved Europe from fascism” lol
I’m disengaging here. But I hope one day you really do read anything beyond the pathetic party propaganda. Burnett Bolloten was a journalist aligned with the PCE living in Barcelona during the Civil War; he actually supported the PCE until he saw what it was doing, but I know the party cult tells everyone that doesn’t repeat everything the party cult says is a CIA agent, so it’s up to you to become critical or just blindly follow the cult. Augustin Souchy and Emma Goldman were also there at the time and wrote extensively about the subject, and those weren’t even CNT-FAI members but only supporters.
The fact is that everywhere a non-Bolshevik-aligned antifascist revolutionary force arose, the bolsheviks spent their resources crushing it instead of fighting the fascists.
You don’t get to disengage after writing a whole ass PDF document and calling me pathetic, thats not how disengage works.
Just so you see who actually supported the Soviets:
Signed by fucking Dolores Ibarruri herself.
But sure, the Bolsheviks are the literal Judeo-Bolshevism conspiracy with infinite power controlling politics everywhere in the world. Keep your conspiracy theories alive, buddy.