An Oklahoma man who was doing target practice in his backyard on Christmas is believed to have shot and killed an elderly woman a few blocks from his home, authorities said.

Cody Wayne Adams, 33, has been charged with first-degree manslaughter in connection with the deadly shooting, court filings show.

The victim was on a covered front porch with family members at a residence in Comanche when she was shot Thursday afternoon, according to the probable cause affidavit. She was holding a baby in her left arm while seated on a love seat when she was struck in her right upper arm, according to the affidavit. The bullet then entered her chest cavity, it said.

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      1st degree doesn’t mean premeditated, it means to the highest degree. A murder charge typically implies premeditation whereas manslaughter implies recklessness.

      1st degree manslaughter sounds right to me, killing someone accidentally through extreme recklessness in this case.

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      You right, but consider this. You can’t get plea deals without inflated charges. The pre-meditation could be that “he went into the house”. He had the game on. He didn’t NEED to be inside, he chose to go inside. If he was carrying a gun while he went inside AND anticipated an altercation, then you can make the argument, however poorly cobbled together, that he had thought this shit through.

      “But, there’s no plea deal for a man who died by suicide!” You’re right. But it’s a nice way to slide some precedent through because who is going to defend this asshole? Nobody.

      Now, the next time someone does something similar and lives, you got that sweet murder 1 baybeee! They went into somewhere they didn’t need to be, knowing that it would provoke an altercation, and they were carrying their firearm with intent to use it when the situation escalated (State of Oklahoma v. Cody Wayne Adams). Hell, this citation can be scraped by some language learning model and appear down the road to support this scenario when an overworked intern slaps together a brief for an attorney who is focused on numbers.

      It doesn’t have to be a good argument. It just has to be AN argument.

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    We have a place literally designed for target practice, it’s called the “shooting range”. Ever heard of it ?

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      Even in very gun friendly areas ranges are always few, far between and often with years long wait lists for membership. Private property is often the only option, but it needs to be done safely. It sounds like every one of his neighbors had backstops for their home ranges, this dude was just a moron.

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        I’ve never heard of this issue. I know of at least 3 in my area that I could walk in, give them my id, fill out a small piece of paper and rent a gun and buy ammo to shoot there right there and then. I’ve even brought my Canadian in laws. They were able to shoot with just their passports. Rural ish PA btw

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          Much of the country it is a nightmare finding a place to shoot. I’m moving to Charleston SC at the end of the summer, I already reached out to the main range around there and they aren’t even accepting new people to the wait list. They’re hoping to maybe open the wait list back up in April or so.

          When I lived in Northern Virginia someone finally built a very nice 100 yd indoor range and it was only a 45 minute drive from my apartment. Then the owner retired after 5-10 years and the town where it was located flat out told him “we will never approve the permits for you to ever sell it to another person. Sell it to us so we can make it a private police training facility or you will never see a penny.”

          I’ve lived in many states, and it was almost always at least an hour to the nearest range. Right now I shoot on a private farm 10 minutes away and it’s beautiful.

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    In civilized parts of the world, it is illegal to discharge a firearm in an urban area or within X metres of an occupied building etc.

    In the USA people shoot in their suburban backyard.

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        Yeah, but allowing people to have guns is killing hella people for no other reason than “I like guns”. Nobody is resisting anything or keeping anyone safe or stopping the bad guy. It’s just raining bullets and people who are okay with it use the Constitution to allow it to continue. (The Constitution, as it turns out, is fucking bullshit.)

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      Yes because those are less lethal. Under no pretense. We need proper education of firearm safety and usage like we need better education of car safesty and usage.

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    There’s gotta be a name for the look where a physically unfit/poor performing American tries to offset this by donning physically “tough” fashion accessories and hair dos.

    I know there’s gravy seals, but they kind of take it to the next level.

    This, it’s more like a defence mechanism. Like they’d totally get their ass kicked in literally anything—fighting, jogging, getting up out of a chair—but they keep themselves safe by dressing up and casting tough stares.

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    “I’m a responsible gun owner, i have owned guns since the dawn of light” - Proceeds to 360 no-scope the neighbor.

    Well, no, the average gun owner in USA is not a responsible gun owner.

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      The average gun owner is responsible, it’s all these super owners who skew the stats. The average gun owner owns one pistol that’s locked away in a case or safe and only sees the light of day when it’s opened at the range.

      Then there are super owners who skew the results and have a half dozen guns and shoot them off at their property with no bullet berm or any actual range safety practices. They keep their guns on their bedside table, by the door, etc, always loaded with the excuse that it would take too long to deal with safety practices if there is an intruder.

      These are the people you hear about in the news. The more guns the less safe in my experience.

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        In the eyes of an American perhaps, sure, but if you come from a civilized place on the world, well simply no…and we still are allowed to own guns, its simply not handed out like candy.

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    Geez, if he’d lived any closer it would have gone through her and into the baby as well. Although she probably dropped the baby in any case.

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    The ONLY way, and I mean LITERALLY Only Way, to have Prevented this is if SHE shot him FIRST!

    -People trying to Denaturalize US Citizens!

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    And this is why we shouldn’t just let every fuckhead idiot have a gun.

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      Gun owner here. The bar to owning a gun is so ridiculously stupid and easy. Anyone who says otherwise is stupid.

      It’s not difficult at all.

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      Fully agree and I’m multiple gun owner. In my home, the firearms and ammunition are stored separately and nothing is loaded.

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      Exactly! I don’t want to take away your guns. I want fuckheads like these to not be able to buy them in the first place.

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      Gun ownership should come with a psych test and some kind of basic system for ensuring people understand the gravity of the device they are purchasing at minimum. As it stands, I can walk into a pawn shop a few blocks away and have a weapon in almost no time, and I’m all kinds of fucked up.

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        Nope, every time this country has put in some kind of “test” to access a right it’s ultimately used by racists to disenfranchise people of color and anyone else they find undesirable.

        Maybe a mandatory class that’s simple based on attendance could work, but anything that requires someone making a subjective call will be abused

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          Bullshit. I’m tired of assholes using racism as an excuse to not put controls in place.

          It’s just another type of godwinning a conversation. Just claim racists abused it once!

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            Yes because as we can clearly see there are no racists in power abusing the system for their racist agendas…

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          Subjective calls (“may-issue”) have already been determined unconstitutional by SCOTUS (Bruen).

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    Is it just a given that if a man’s middle name is “Wayne” he’s going to jail at some point?

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    Law enforcement investigating the shooting canvassed several residences to the north of the deadly shooting and found that all but one – Adams’ – had “suitable shooting backstops or firing locations,” according to the affidavit.

    So… pretty much everyone in the area had a shooting range except the accused?

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      Yeah, this happened literally 4 houses down from me. We all shoot guns, but we have targets, and those that dont go down to the bridge and fire into the creek bank. This whole thing is because he was lazy/stupid.

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        Just checking, you go to the stream and shot lead bullets it? That then infiltrates the watershed. So there’s a lead poisoning problem in your area?

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          This happens everywhere. The VFW in the next town over has a “turkey shoot” where they shoot bird shot over a river at a pavilion with targets on the side. All that bird shot just goes straight into the river. The VFW is in the center of town, so it’s not like it’s ever been a secret.

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      A “backstop” is not a shooting range…

      It’s usually just a pile of dirt.

      It’s wild for a bunch of people in a neighborhood to all be doing this, because even if the first couple are kind of safe about it, every idiot starts thinking jt’s safe to just shoot at a can or anything. All they know is they hear gunshots

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        Sounds like a terrible neighbourhood to live in, shots going off from everyone all the time

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        My parents have a place to shoot in their yard. It’s a stack of old railroad ties four deep, two wide and ten tall with dirt piled up around the back. There is an empty field for over a mile behind that. I can’t imagine using it if anyone was any closer.

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          Under the right conditions, the NATO 5.56 x 45 mm can travel u to 3600 meters (4,000 yards). If one round, for some reason is shot above the berm, one mile is not enough. It does not take much to fuck up.

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    Yup, that’s why if you’re going to practice, do so on a range and always consider: what the hell is BEHIND/AROUND my target?

    JFC for a nation as obsessed with firearms as the United States, the level of firearms safety knowledge is shockingly low.

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      People in my neck of the woods talk about fire arms the way I talk about video games or TV shows. They sound like recreation rather than self defense. I don’t know if knowledge is the only factor; a sense of seriousness about firearms seems to be lacking.

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        To be fair if guns were legal in my area I’d totally have one for fun. They look like a ton of fun. Probably best I’m not allowed one

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        Yep people shoot around where I live on their own 2 acre plot of land. Always know what’s behind your target “there are trees” and what’s behind those trees Joe?

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          There’s a house in an adjacent neighborhood that occasionally fires guns to a degree that it sounds like a gun battle is taking place. This story will make me wonder about their gun safety.

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      Lol, ranges aren’t necessarily any better. Hopefully they have someone enforcing safety rules, but there are a great deal of them that are in suburban areas, and even the rural ones can be within striking range of homes.

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      That’s exactly the point. Those if us that want gun control don’t want to rip them from the hands of responsible gun-owners.

      We want common-sense laws that let us research and prevent gun violence. We want to keep guns out of the hands of those too young to understand them, criminals, abusers, stalkers, and the mentally-ill. We want people to have to understand how to safely operate them before purchasing guns, going hunting, or obtaining a concealed-carry permit. We want to limit gun crimes and school shootings.

      But Republicans, the NRA, and gun lobbies oppose all of these popular positions most Americans agree on, even though it results in more gun deaths. There’s no compromising with fundamentalists…

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        You and I, my friend, are of a singular mind. I don’t oppose RESPONSIBLE gun ownership.

        Responsibility, however, is a word missing from the MAGA/GOP/NRA vocabulary.

        What was your latest purchase, if I may ask?

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          My latest… gun purchase? I bought a Remington 870 Express hunting shotgun maybe a decade ago. Non-firearm: I bought a matte black flatware set that was on sale for Black Friday that I really like!