Weight Comparison
| Model | Weight (grams) | Screen Size |
|---|---|---|
| LG Gram Pro 16 (2026) | 1,199 | 16-inch |
| MacBook Air 15 (M4/M3) | 1,510 | 15-inch |
| MacBook Pro 14 (M5/M3) | 1,550-1,600 | 14-inch |
| MacBook Pro 16 (M3+) | 2,140-2,200 | 16-inch |
Ofc with AI™
What a misleading title! It says 2026 gram laptop but that’s so heavy it’s 1199 grams wtfff
Macbook Air isn’t just about the weight, the processor/horsepower are a draw. I have to wonder if LG can compete with Apple’s performance, rather than just making a lighter laptop. The Macbook Air is already quite light. The Macbook Pro is a beast.
The question is does it run as silent as apple laptops?
Most non-gaming laptops since 2010 don’t really make noticeable noise
no, even in 2020 Intel Macs were noisy compared to apple silicon Macs.
How can fanless intel macbook air make noise?
Only the MacBook 12 was fanless from the Intel era, but I’m not too sure about that. Airs were never fanless while being Intel.
and that thing was a disaster.
Unfortunately, yes. I’m looking for a compact laptop, a typing machine of a kind, I’d use for typing texts in nvim. So I don’t care how slow it is, but I’d like it to be thin and light, with USB C adapter for charger. Even the battery life is not something I need to be high, all I care for it to handle a single writing session, of an hour or two. Ideally, I’d prefer the laptop to be cheap, I don’t need a typing machine for a grand. This laptop could be perfect for the task, yet it’s a disaster. So far, one of the best laptops I could find is a used MacBook Air 11, can get one for €50 to €100 these days.
They had fans in the Pro, nobody mentioned the Air specifically in this thread. The Air at that time had a crappy Y series Intel CPU in order to go fanless.
intel airs did have fans anyway. when they switched to apple silicon they removed the fans.
The 12” macbook (not air or pro) was fanless but it was a severely gimped CPU and had major issues.
Ah okay I assumed that since the last Intel Airs used the same shitty Y series Intel CPUs they were also fanless. Now that I’m thinking though - those Airs were the ones that had fans that never really blew at the heatsink
Silence, at least under light load, is honestly such a nice feature.
I bought my desktop at an auction for a self-driving car startup that was shutting down. Amazing specs, great price. It had two RTX 2080 Ti cards in there. Loudest GPU fan I’ve ever heard in my life. All the other fans in the computer are Noctua but I guess the Ti cards are strictly optimized for performance and not necessarily gaming. I got some nice speakers that are color-coordinated with the desktop but when I’m doing some serious gaming I have to use noise-cancelling headphones to tune out the sound of the GPU fan. Might get a different GPU at some point but it’s out of my fun budget right now.
Do you have any use case for dual cards? Might trade them in for one newer, more efficient card.
Not at all, I sold one.
hated my 3060 ti because of the ridiculously loud fans. the lowest speed for the fans was 1600 rpm and at that speed it howled like a wolf. it would frequently turn them on even when idle as the temps went above 55.
very happy with my new sapphire 9070 xt, it stays perfectly silent no matter what i throw at it.
The question is can I run Linux on it.
Personally I’m fine with them taking the noise levels from the aerospace industry, too. My primary concern is how’s the battery life?
well more noise usually goes hand in hand with worse battery life.
Probably with unskippable advertisements.
People looking to make an airfoil out of their laptop or some shit?
It’s still the same fucking Tiktok guys.
Tbf half the weight is huge gains. There a big difference between carrying 2 kilograms and 1.
Do you actually want super light laptops? I feel like there is a sweet spot, but who knows maybe I would even want one, never held it in my hands/used it.
I feel like this comes at the cost of repairability as well though.
It does make a difference, especially when the gains are so massive. Personally I don’t care much for it but free weight loss is free weight loss. Hopefully this tech gets adopted by other laptop brands.
Meanwhile, I just got a cooling pad for my $800 laptop with a RTX 4060 that makes it bulkier and heavier, but 20C cooler when doing Blender renders. The sleek $3000 MacBook Pro I got from work would only render at half the speed, though it wouldn’t need the cooling pad. As long as I can work from the sofa or bed on a reasonably powerful machine, it’s not worth almost quadrupole the price for thinner and lighter, especially with less muscle.
Have you looked into streaming from a desktop? I’m using sunshine/moonlight to stream my video editor from gaming PC to Thinkpad and it works really well! The quality and responsiveness is really good these days to the point where it’s hard to even tell it’s a stream.
When you say stream you mean remote desktop, right?
I’ve used them quite a lot to stream games from a PC to a Steam Deck and a Nvidia Shield and agreed that the 2 projects are fantastic.
This is the way
You get all the power of a PC. There’s literally no better way to work on the go, and you can buy the cheapest little laptop known to man.
I’m not going to buy anything from LG any more. My ongoing battle against my own LG TV’s enshittification (forced ads and AI everywhere, getting worse every update) has soured my opinion on LG. They can go to hell.
I agree, LG is a pretty awful brand all around but I really like the idea of new lighter materials used in consumer hardware. Moving away from plastics to metal frames has been nothing but a fashion mistake.
I’ve actually always liked the solid feel of Macbooks. There are lighter laptops out there, but few if any feel as solid.
Hard disagree, macbooks have some of the most unergonomic and awful frame design. The sharp corner alone are just so peak stupidity.
I think people fall for “heavy == quality” falacy way too often here especially since the aluminum frame is actually worse at protecting the internals.
If I remember correctly, Beats headphones (and many other consumer portable electronics) have been found to have pieces of metal (or even concrete) attached inside their housings to add weight and the feeling of “solid”
I just like the rigidity. I hate bendy laptops.
Why would I need the internals protected? Like most laptops, none of mine move around a lot. If I worked out in the field, I’d get something actually tough, sure. But I don’t need a Toughbook.
You need internals protected from basic shock. Macbooks are notoriously very poor regarding drops while you can play volleyball with a plastic thinkpad.
Just don’t drop your laptop lmao, how hard can it be?
I’ve never dropped my Thinkpad even, and those are actually easier to accidentally trip over since they don’t have Magsafe.
Also I’ve seen hundreds of dented Macbooks work completely fine. Same with plastic laptops like the Thinkpad and Elitebook except they’d usually have a hole or crack in the corner after the drop instead of a dent.
You may not want to, but when you get food poisoning and have to run to the bathroom to throw up, you may knock the laptop over
This is a common security fallacy as sure you might not drop your laptop like you’re not crashing your car but once you hit something it’s nice to have airbags right? People pay several thousand dollars to recover hard drives of dropped laptops and can you imagine being in such stressful position? So a bit of safety goes a long way.
If you want a heavy brick that doesn’t need to move around, then buy a desktop for the power.
If you want a heavy brick that does need to move around, then buy a Think Book so that it can survive a fall.
And if you want a light laptop that’s easy to carry around, then buy a Gram so that it can survive a fall and do basic 2007 things like include a numpad.
MacBooks heavy feel is literally just them overcharging you for something brittle. It’s like being charged more for furniture because it’s heavy only to find outs it’s made with MDF.
Macbooks have decent chips that are limited by Apple’s crappy software, a flat out badly designed OS, nice screens, and way too much weight for their utility.
ThinkBooks are super cheap crap, you mean ThinkPads. Lenovo is diluting the brand.
I worked as a refurb tech. Even the T and X seriess Thinkpads regularly came in with cracks, holes in the corners, etc. Macs would come in dented too, but never did I see a hole in one.
I do also have a desktop. And I move my laptops around, I just don’t drop them on pavement.
I’m also not disabled so I’m not sure why I need the lower weight for carrying a laptop around.
Really? I thought LG was known for making the least smart TVs. I bought one not too long ago and I haven’t noticed a single smart feature.
I had to setup a custom pihole LG blacklist to keep it from displaying ads in the menu. And LG is well known for spying on their customers in the worst way possible
Rectally?
Seriously though, screen grabs are bullshit. Fuck those guys.
Easy workaround, don’t ever let your TV access the internet.
Easy workaround if you have a stb that has AV1 compatibility or pirated content to stream locally
Well the problem is we only use the TV for streaming and my partner wants Netflix and other commercial stuff. Which means I would have to connect another internet device to the TV where the same problem happens again. Going exclusively Jellyfin or whatever is not a solution at this time
I have a steam deck and I stream from it directly to the TV. I pirate all my Netflix shows
Yeah… I have older 4k Roku devices luckily, they don’t have microphones and I can opt out of ads.
You can opt out of ads on a Roku? Last I checked (like 4 years ago) ads were anywhere in the OS.
A Chromecast is not full of ads, but are they all just Google TV now? Is Google TV full of ads? I haven’t used one.
Could be an option to reset your TV, disconnect it from the Internet, and buy & use a Google TV device instead. The streaming devices seem to have far fewer ads and shit than TV manufacturers cram into their devices nowadays.
The hoops we have to jump through to minimise surveillance capitalism… I see elsewhere in the thread you’ve had to use a PiHole to block most of the TVs traffic.
I have an old Chromecast but it’s not 4k. The new ones are enshittified as well as far as I know
Almost as good as a macbook from 5 years ago, for only twice the price!
Not sure what you mean by that? Macbooks aren’t good laptops to begin with.
I’d take a “my first Sony”-notebook over those crapbooks for the technologically challenged 😁
im building a cyber deck, fuck this shit.
With another AI talk to try to hype up consumers in the article, I wouldn’t be surprised this thing is pretty much like a Chromebook that has to call servers to do much things… Still sticking to older tech
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I get the appeal of a lightweight device but i personally like a little weight as long as it is heavy because it _b … I just woke up and realized I fell asleep typing my comment. I literally bored myself to sleep.
Just removed the battery.
