So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?
Major economic crash or civil war. Or someone whacks Trump, or he croaks. Right now they’re trying to speedrun Project 2025 before Trump inevitably keels over.
Americans too lazy for a civil war. They are too busy slowly dying to capitlism while blaming trans.
None of these things will stop the US. What will is a general strike, a new constitutional convention, and the reconstruction of the nation from the ground up.
Trump is the entire reason this is working. All of Trump’s minions are too incompetent to be able to hold everything from crashing down once he croaks. They have a time limit. They’re trying to turn the US into a full blown dictatorship before Trump dies.
Zero shot that a constitutional convention in the near future would be for the better.
I’ve been saying since Trump was elected again that the only fucking shot we have is a blue wave so massive that we can shove through amendments and just restructure the entire fucking system from the ground up.
So, we’re doomed
I agree that a general strike could do the trick, but the challenge will be getting almost everyone onboard while still allowing the working class to eat and have shelter. By design, working class Americans have little means of weathering a long term general strike, and the upper class has enough wealth to ignore it unless it’s a prolonged effort. A general strike for a few days will not cut it.
It might be “easier” for other countries to start dumping US debt. Not that it’s their responsibility to “save” the US, of course. However, if enough debt was dumped, it would collapse the US economy. This is a nuclear option since it would also hurt the global economy, but would certainly hurt the US the most.
Yeah, a whole-country general strike in America would only last a day, two tops. They don’t have the wherewithal to be good neighbours and politically aligned against monied interests the way a nation-state that has a deeper, older history can.
The history of America is money, interest, and interested money.
Southern plantations, 17th century land ownership, trade in enslaved persons, ranching, gold prospecting… and war.
War against the Indigenous, the French, the Spanish, the Mexica, the French again, the British, the Bolivarians, themselves, and then everyone else, forever.
The way to defeat America is to end its war-making capacity. Explosions, attacks, weathering, budget restrictions, out-competition, and mutually-assured destruction have all failed as gambits. What remains is to undercut the human element — wounding warriors without wielding deadly force. A loss in military preparedness, a disbelief in the stated mission, a war-weariness.
It’s nowhere close to that level. The GOP/ MAGA has been eroding international trust in America for a while now, but realistically, everybody else is on the outside looking in, and even if America removed all women’s rights, including the right to vote, or annexed Panama, all that would happen would be strongly worded protests and further political isolation of America from the rest of the world.
Nobody wants to fight a war against the USA, and barring something cataclysmic like an invasion of Mexico, nobody wants to sanction the largest market in the world.
TL;DR: America would have to become much poorer or much weaker before anybody does anything.
WW3, that’s literally it. The rest of the world has done jack and shit about Russia and Ukraine beside sanctions and providing resources. People like to meme about Canada being badass, but they have such a small military presence that NATO has been upset with them for about 5 years for not doing their part. Outside of that there is no one in North or South America that can stand up to the US.
Africa isn’t doing much militarily. No one close to China is going to drop their guard to go after the US (Australia included since they have China breathing down their necks as well). That leaves Europe and the Middle East. The Middle East probably isn’t going to do much and if the US takes Venezuela’s oil then they need the Middle East even less.
Europe will probably spin wheels and denounce actions, but the important members of Europe are either 1.) part of NATO 2.) not prepared to defend themselves from Russia if they leave NATO. They can’t meaningfully sanction a military ally without breaking that alliance and once that alliance is officially broken NATO doesn’t have the US backing against Russia and also faces even more risk of Greenland or Canada being attacked by the US.
Best bet for stopping the US is Brazil, Russia, or China saying they will intervene for Venezuela, the EU and other NATO nations saying they won’t support the US, and then BRICS all jump in to fight the US. Maybe this weakens the US and BRICS effectively passes NATO but now Europe is sitting in the crosshairs for Russia.
Honestly, trying to go against the US is more likely to cause the Republican leaders to dislike European or international opinions even more. Republican’s have been complaining at home for 20 years about freeloading foreigners who spend their military budgets on lefty progressive ideas, foreigners complaining about US domestic policies, and all the while the US polices the world for them. It’s this sort of foreign attitude mixed with Russian and Chinese propaganda which has caused the US to drift further and further away from a positive relationship with Europe. Trying to go against the US is more likely to cause a Nazi & Stalin dividing up Poland situation rather than hurting the US.
Stop paying taxes
Maduro and Trump are friends
Maduro gets to escape his country and save face instead of being assassinated or executed.
Trump gets to manufacture a conflict so he can start martial law and become a dictator, and to distract from us learning he came inside little girls.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Regimes like this only respond to incredible violence. They believe rules and laws and norms that don’t serve them don’t apply to them. All the systems designed to resist this bullshit are ignored completely because they just opt out of society’s rules while rewriting them on the fly to serve exclusively them.
This ends a couple of different ways. One is they encounter a bigger bully. They are all loyalists that cannot strategize, cooperate, and execute a plan. It’s yes men all the way down. So if someone powerful enough takes a swing, they don’t have the ability to respond. In this case, Canada invading the US with resources supplied by other nations concerned they are next makes the most sense. This administration wouldn’t be able to respond with anything other than tantrums online and on TV.
The other way this ends is letting them do whatever they want. They need an enemy to survive. Eventually they run out of enemies and have to invent new ones. We are already at that point. They divide the population up into good guys and bad guys and eliminate the bad guys, then they do it again, getting smaller and smaller each time until there’s no longer enough people left to sustain them. This is not the way we want as most of the US would have to die off for it to work but it is sort of the default mode of extinction for fascism.
The only method that works with fascists and results in the fewest casualties is incredible overwhelming violence. It’s been done before and worked because it was the best option, even if it’s still a terrible one.
But here’s where the propaganda machine protects the fascists. People are already ready for the incredible violence. The country is on a cliff edge right now. But we are so divided and dependent on TV and social media that we are told to attack eachother instead of the fascists. Most of us don’t want to do that.
So we wait for extinction.
Time. A regime as dysfunctional as this can’t go on indefinitely… Like, it is physically impossible for it to think far enough ahead for it to be resilient enough to last. Unfortunately, a lot of good people will suffer before then.
Most of these answers here are not viable because the US has leverage in almost every nation on earth.
Venezuela, Iran, Russia, China, etc are the exception, hence why they are sanctioned (and constantly suffering problems with every new CIA project) bar China which is locked in a trade war and has a sizable military to back themselves up.
You would realistically require a counter world power that offers an alternative to the US system, which used to be the USSR which no longer exists.
China is poised as the next superpower, but they haven’t made any significant moves in that regard because they are wary of the USSR’s downfall, and have no intention of engaging the USA in that manner (yet).
Everyone in the UN, despite all their cries, will fall in line when threatened, aside from the aforementioned exceptions.
Only US citizens can stop the US. We’re counting on you guys!
Jesus fuck. I hope this is a joke because no one is realistically counting on Americans to do the right fucking thing.
Go fuck yourself
You know it’s true.
Prepare to be disappointed
If other counties boycotted instead of caving into demands, that would have an influence.
Sanctioning & putting an embargo on US & meanwhile bleeding them dry by going after American big-tech.
Nuclear proliferation will also help
World War 3 isn’t the answer, not with the biggest players in the defense industry being US based.
If the change in power were due to military power, the EU would have to switch to not relying on the US…which is what they’re starting to do!
A more reasonable scenario would be financial: the world deciding to not use the US dollar as the currency standard and start cashing in the US debt.
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For other countries? Nothing. There’s nothing they can do.
For citizens? Vote.
Nope. There won’t any be any more legit elections. Citizens are just fucked.
Oh and start organizing.
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Gotta love insults on suggesting to vote lol. Anyway reported and moving on.
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World leaders should:
- Sell all US treasuries and buy gold instead
- Stop using the Dollar to trade with countries not involving America, use Euro, Yuan or gold instead
- Kick America from the SWIFT system or use an alternative system like China’s CIPS
- Stop using US tech like Google, Mera reddit, X etc
- Stop buying weapons from America
- Sanction America, just like they sanctioned Russia.
China and Russia are already doing most of these. So they’re not afraid to raise their voice against America.
Japan and UK (both struggling economies) hold the highest amount of US debt. Third is China which is steadily selling.
Pretty sure this is what the techno-garchs want.
