• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    4 days ago

    TBF if somebody came into my country, removed the wannabe dictator from office, and completely withdrew within 3 hours I would be thrilled.

    And I live in the USA.

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      3 days ago

      You’re comparing a non-fiction, evolving scenario of US imperialism to a fictional scenario where a “somebody” removes a guy you don’t like with zero strings attached, no ulterior motives, and no stated motives or historical context before or after.

      Your comparison is poor, half-thought (IMO), and driven by catharsis. You are tacitly endorsing hegemony - a position enabled by your subconscious knowing (or hoping) that your general safety and comfort is protected living inside of a fascist superpower.

      I read statements like yours and my heart hurts.

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        3 days ago

        US Imperialism, at this moment, currently doesn’t exist, Venezuela is under the rule of Vice Dictator Rodriguez, one of Maduro’s guys. Nor should it ever exist, because Congress alone has the authority to enter war, and it is to be hoped they’re not completely spineless or at least if they are that the midterms will perform spinal correction upon them.

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          3 days ago

          Under rule of her by duress, not open-ended self-determination. The mission wasn’t “we’re gonna remove a dictator and let the people of Venezuela determine their destiny, let us know how we can help ma’am.” It was “your guy is a narcoterrorist [citation needed] and we’re gonna rebuild your oil infrastructure.” So in your opinion it’s not imperialism because we don’t yet have a colony there? I’m really struggling to grasp why you don’t think this is an expression of imperialism.

          US Imperialism has expressed itself throughout history in many ways, regardless of congressional approval and regardless of its status as a “war” or not. You should do some reading on how Hawaii became a state, for one example among many. Also there’s this.

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            3 days ago

            I don’t pretend to know what the “plan” was, Trump’s a senile fuckin moron and his whole administration are a bunch of incompetent thugs, but I think being labelled as Imperialism implies that they have an empire.

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      4 days ago

      I have to think about which of these things is more important:

      1. I’d like Trump specifically removed

      2. I object to a transfer of power in the US being effected unilaterally by a foreign military

      I’m not sure that disposing of one leader I hate is actually worth embracing #2 forever afterward.

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        4 days ago

        That has yet to be seen in Venezuela, but I suppose the chances of any other world leader being as incompetent as Trump while also removing Trump is slim to none.