• zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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          You think leftists can just join the police and fix everything from the inside? Have you tried? You think Republicans are more likely to do the job because not enough leftists apply, and not because the system selects specifically for conservative-minded people?

          Leftists don’t villify the job. Leftists villify the system that actively selects against them, educated people, and people with empathy, a system inherently rooted and founded upon racist principles.

          The system cannot be fixed from within by infiltrating it with some lefty cops, and your suggestion to do so is laughably naive at best, and maliciously counterproductive at worst. The system needs to be rebuilt and retooled. And that’s not going to happen just by being nice to cops, or by leftists becoming cops.

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            Yea anyone can join the police force. It’s not a requirement to be republican. It’s shit like this that drives me. The lack of critical thinking and instead just straight up feelings.

            I think that much like heritage foundation,
            TPUSA, Peter Thiels and other republican and right leaning groups have adopted very strategic digital media campaigns to distance the left from positions of authority and the left ate it the fuck up.

            Neo nazis, the mafia and just about every other organized group is always working to infiltrate these roles. Especially nazis, they get their guys into areas of recruiting and it’s a decade of hiring that changes the entire thing. Now we’re not organized like that. But we’re organized to share stuff like ‘fuck pigs ACAB’ which in my belief is only going to alienate us.

            Without putting people back in those positions you have nothing. When you notice it, it’s clear as day the way something in the left has strategically made it more isolated from so many areas of society. Then you have Trump firing every single person who had leftist ideals in police forces, government and military. That didn’t happen because they didn’t exist.

            The only other option is violence and i fucking promise you that the left does not have the violence to match theirs. And again the left doesn’t have a leg to stand on without even one single authority in it’s own society. If it can’t muster even one then it’s dead in the water and only a matter of time.

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              The only thing I’m getting here is that you think that police are the only/ultimate positions of authority, which is shedding some light on the rest of your “arguments”.

              Good luck infiltrating the cops my dude, I wish you the best and good luck. I’ll be over here working on other, useful things.

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                No it’s one part. But we’re not discussing some panacea. We’re discussing one part. Do you want more paragraphs?

                Ultimately the point is what exactly is the plan on the left. What power are they left with in society

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                  No, I don’t really want more paragraphs dude, it’s getting exhausting trying to parse any points out of what’s already there. I’m still trying to wrap my mind around thr fact that the person who posted this video of cops being terrible people would then advocate for leftists to befriend and become cops themselves, over advocating for institutional, systematic change.

                  And if you’re implying that the left has no plan, I implore you to extricate yourself from the rock you’re living under.

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                    I have not said befriend cops. I’ve said leftist need to stop alienating themselves from want positions of power and authority which include cops.

                    The left does not have any plan. For the last decade, the left has been actively working against itself.

                    We live in a world of Cambridge analytics, Peter Thiels, Heritage foundations, TPUSA and so on. I don’t think it’s crazy to think the left is pushed to becoming weaker and less effective by these groups. The signs are how militant that the left have become in giving up everything that is critical to being successful as a group. We’re all on lemme during a well advertised ‘exodus’ during a time when reddit gave mods a lot more power and removed tools to perform analysis just as we were all given AI tools that can be used to perform analysis by anyone.

                    Everybody is going to focus on putting their effort into a protest now. Just like before. Then go home and do nothing. I’m tired of it. In order to get actual change we need to change. To do that we need to focus on doing what works for everyone one else. Focus on getting people into positions where they have actual power and authority