• zeppo@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Except Ashley Babbitt, who is a hero for breaking into a secured area of the US Capitol during a riot and getting shot.

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          2 months ago

          Just trying to figure out why you decided moving the goal post was the right call instead of addressing the actual subject matter.

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            2 months ago

            They didn’t move the goal post. You used one event to compare another. It is perfectly legitimate therefore to talk about the original event. You may wish the most recent US event to be the topic of discussion, which is fine, but that doesn’t mean it’s illegitimate for the original Chinese event to also be discussed.

            If you didn’t want Tiannamen Square to be discussed you shouldn’t have posted an image of Tiannamen Square.

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              I’m fine with the topic of Tiannamen Square but that looked like a copypasta that didn’t address the compliance topic. They had something they needed to say and dropped it in with no attempt actually tie it to this post instead of TS in general.

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      Which students and union leaders believed would lead to stark inequalities and wealth/class gaps.

      Which, to be fair, they were right about. They just underestimated the level of prosperity it would bring China overall

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          It’s an issue of relevance. I know he climbed on top and walked with some other people off to the left and was never seen again. That’s irrelevant to the subject though. If he had just complied he would have never been there to create that iconic image. He certainly wouldn’t have climbed on top. We also know that while he may have vanished from history that street would later be covered in the bodies of others who were crushed by tanks and shot by their own nation.

          It’s not ignorance. It’s taking in the whole situation.

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            Care to tell me how you know the streets were covered in bodies? I’ve never seen that. I’m being genuine

            I’ve only ever seen the picture of this dude in front of the tank and then years later the video of him not getting run over. I felt tricked when I saw it.

            I’m very aware there is censorship and propaganda at play but I know the US is playing that game in addition to China so I really don’t know what level of government force was used there.

            The tank picture and the way it’s framed over here have me leaning towards the idea that there is no real evidence of a massacre. Maybe that’s China censorship or maybe it didn’t happen but if you got something I can look at and know more i’d appreciate you sharing it. 🙂

            That being said without something like that the comparison feels unfair since we don’t know if tank man received any repercussions for not complying. 🤷 We’re as ice is just murdering civilians in the street in the USA.

            Edit: to be clear I’ve searched around a lot but it’s so unclear to me. But maybe I missed something super important