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Also, don’t leave your account unused, delete it. User and follower numbers count.
And least as important, reply (if necessary to another corporate mail address) every email with Twitter/X in the footer, with a kind request to stop promoting and facilitating X.
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I Canada we still have “left” parties publishing on X. I wrote to them I wont be voting for a party that use a platform run by and for nazis. Just for fun, I actually ask a LLM if using X was indirectly supporting the white supremacists and it agreed that it was lol. Someone should ask Grok.
Deleted my twitter account a decade ago when I commented on a Canada Proud twitter post that resulted in months of non-stop harassment. It’s always been this, they’ve just been turning up the heat year on year, and now people realize it’s boiling.
I think I made an account years ago (before it was acquired), never used it, and proceeded to forget the login details 🤦♀️ I don’t even think I still have access to the email address that I used.
I’m not sure how to delete that one :(
I am in a similar situation, I still use that email, but resetting the password requires more attention than I am willing to give them.
Yeah, especially since I’d literally have to download the app in order to delete the account, even if I was able to recover it…
is that a new requirement? i deleted mine from the website when elon started heiling
I don’t know, I haven’t tried that cause I don’t know my password anyway
X, instagram, FAcebook and, of course, Reddit.
Why dont companies and governments switch to Mastodon instead?
I think they want a bigger reach than both of us when they put out public statements.
Honestly they should get off all social media and just post announcements on their own websites not subject to billionaire influence & not having to deal with trolls.
They should return to RSS feeds
That’s basically what AT protocol (Bluesky) is
Mastodon is great for certain things, but not great as a broadcast medium. A European AT Protocol implementation is a better solution https://www.eurosky.social/
It’s a good day as any to move to Mastodon.
That’s true, but Bluesky is also 100 times better than X and probably a more feasible/realistic alternative for all kinds of companies/sports clubs/government agencies/etc. Although I prefer Mastodon in principle, I am quite sceptical about the chance that it will be seen (by the general public) as such a good alternative to X that they will actually consider themselfs being able to leave X.
No, Mastodon. Bluesky is repeating the same mistakes
Repeating mistakes, taking years to drop a platform owned by a nazi to just run into the next US platform ready to be bought by some other billionaire Nazi… nothing was learnt, was it?
For those of us with the knowledge, it’s our responsibility to both sell the idea of Mastodon and help onboard people. On top of that, there’s many guides, at this point, about how to get involved, choose an instance, set up your feeds, etc.
It’s true that Bluesky is a much more seamless experience, because many options are hardcoded or pre-chosen for people, but if we can get people over the hump of making those choices for themselves, they’ll find it a much better place long term. Also, it’s strongly resistant to the antics of bad actors, so it’s a much better choice for governments and other groups. Bluesky does not enjoy the same natural defenses.
Bluesky will turn to shit, just give it time.
The problem with Bluesky is that it’s essentially centralized, with all the related drawbacks.
And its funding is pretty suspect.
Even if you trust the current leadership team, there’s no reason to believe they’ll remain in charge.
The problem with Bluesky is that it has exactly the same kind of legal structure (for-profit company) with the same kind of objective (make lots of money for founders and early investors) as Twitter, thus is just as likely to be bought by a Nazi billionaire.
If you’re leaving X because it turned into a Nazi bar after being bought by a Nazi, going to Bluesky is just setting yourself up for being in a similar situation again in a couple of years.
Run by a literal Nazi
In case someone thinks “Oh, he’s just an alt-right troll, he doesn’t actually believe in that stuff”, meet Elon’s grandfather:
He became involved in Canadian politics, backing the technocracy movement, before moving to South Africa in 1950. Over the course of decades, Haldeman repeatedly expressed racist, antisemitic, and antidemocratic views.[1] In South Africa he was a supporter of apartheid and promoted a number of conspiracy theories.
He also supported Technocracy, Inc and the Technate of America https://bostonraremaps.com/inventory/technocracy-inc-technate-of-america-1940/
This in turn would necessitate the abandonment of democracy and the embrace of a technocracy—government by an unelected, technically skilled, empirically-driven elite with the expertise necessary to determine values and make rational resource-allocation decisions
Sounds a lot like one of Elon’s beliefs, doesn’t it?
Strange how people who think this way never assume they’ll be one of the people on the outside, letting others make the important decisions. Whenever there’s an elite, they imagine they’ll be part of that elite.
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Yeah see that’s cool, everyone’s entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that anything that normalizes the sexualization of children should be shamed and shunned.
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Ok so your position is just based on semantics then, because someone used the term “built in child abuse tool” instead of “built in child pornography generator”? Is that really a leg you wanna stand on?
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So you really were arguing that Twitter providing a built-in child porn generator isn’t a valid reason to leave it?
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Ok let’s start over. Ignore the context in the previous comments, pretend I’m asking you this for the first time, with no lead up:
Do you think it’s reasonable to leave Twitter because they provide a tool that can be used to generate child porn?
What was it trained on, though?
Even if what it produces is “not technically child abuse”, it was trained on how to make pretend child abuse, emulating what it has already seen. It uses previous child abuse as a guide to make stuff. It may also mix and match the real child abuse to make pretend child abuse. There might be real abused children in those images.
That’s bad, right?
That said, drawing a sexualized image of a fictional child is not child abuse, even if a machine does it. It lack the whole, you know, child being abused part that is kinda central to child abuse.
I get that, but the underlying detail is that for the “AI” to generate that, it most likely already saw it to begin with. Right-wing AI trained on child-porn, weird, i know, but it’s this timeline.
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What the fuck?
Fictional child pornography is still child pornography. This is not just about abuse.
Twitter having a tool to create child pornography is an excellent of reason to quit Twitter.
Okay then, pedo John, thanks for the info
A computer program trained off millions of pictures of people that the program’s parent company acquired by hook or by crook and now any photo you posted of your kids is fair game to be recycled into the most heinous shit imaginable at the press of a button by the kind of slug still using Twitter. There is abuse happening there, when they decided to build a machine that could take family photos put online by wellmeaning people and statistically morph them ship-of-Theseus style into pornography with no safeguards.
If I were a parent and even theoretically one pixel of hair on my child’s head were used as aggregate data for this mathematic new form of abuse by proxy, I’d be old testament mad. I would liken it to a kind of theft or even rape that we have no clear word for or legal concept of yet.
I would suggest just not defending this stuff in any way because you’re simply going to lose, or from your perspective, be dogpiled by people having what you perceive to be an extreme moral panic over this issue.
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I understand, albeit in layman’s terms, more or less what LLMs and image generators are doing, and used the ship of Theseus as shorthand referring to the processes by which real photos are laundered into data sets.
I am aware of the literal difference between an individual model and the data it trains on, and understand that Grok and it’s like are divorced from their output. I have even played with running a local model. This level of concern would be unwarranted if humans were decent and only trained Grok on and requested of Grok to generate puppies playing in open fields.
That doesn’t mean any image created by it henceforth is in any meaningful way a picture of you.
Of course not, it is a picture of hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of people who offered up varying degrees of consent* for the use of their bodies to make any kind of porn.
*Usually 0%, as data illegally scraped is not subject to a hostile TOS agreement if it is uploaded as training data by the scraper without even the knowledge or consent of the original company hosting the data
Like anyone who has ever seen a child or depiction of a child producing any sexually explicit illustration of any sort everafter, then? Because even human artists do not create ex nihilo, they start from a foundation of their cumulative experiences, which means anyone who has ever laid eyes on your child or a photo of your child is at some level incorporating some aspect of that experience however small into any artwork they create henceforth and should they ever draw anything explicit…
I think this largely speaks for itself as some of the worst words ever put together in any order generally. Comparing human creativity and how we draw inspiration from our forebears to the present subject is abhorrent. Imagining human minds turning every single speck of human flesh they see into jackoff material because you assume that is how the mind works because you learned it from a robot is beyond everything.
Die on some other hill unless you’re being paid well. This is a neo Nazi’s CSAM and propaganda machine. If they want to fix it, they’ll scrub their training data and figure out the weights and do a massive ban wave on the abusers. It is not on this world to suffer excuses for this hideous fucking bullshit.
The best moment to delete your Twitter account was ten years ago. The second best is now.
“Moment” has multiple meanings, but one meaning is a synonym of a literal second.
Every moment, then, is the (Now.InSeconds() - BestMoment.InSeconds()).ToString() + “th” best time to delete your Twitter account.
I deleted mine the day after Musk took it over, which is somewhere in the middle I think lol
not me looking to my left and seeing my dad using it 😭
You could tell him that X isn’t cool anymore. That Bsky (or mastodon) is the new Twitter, but without the 90% trolls and without the advertisements every other 3 posts
I forgot if I still had an account. Yep but haven’t used it since covid probably. Deactivated it just now, guess it will delete in 30days.
I tried Twitter back in the day (when it was still Twitter) and deleted it after a few days. I haven’t really seen a reason to go back and I absolutely don’t see one now.
I personally wouldn’t mind seeing grok temporarily banned until it’s verified that they have their shit AI image creation tool under control. I also hope that the result of this bull isn’t going to be that X is permabanned in large parts of the world since that would mean further monopolizing social media to Zuckerberg alone. Any shred of competition has to be better than a total monopoly.
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“It doesn’t have the massive userbase” It would if more people started using it instead of the Xcrement site.
So in summation, Nazi outlets are popular, so meh. And allowing the creation of AI child porn is simply “stupid”.
im pretty sure you’r free to go there and start posting comunist propaganda so idk why make you qualify it as nazy outlet. And the bot having the capability to modify picture, on what social network can’t i dl the picture and do the same ? From what i saw gemini also did it
Allowing Nazi ideology and having a CEO that publicly gave a clear Nazi salute twice would be two indications. In fact no other evidence could overcome either of those two things.
Also no one here is saying social media isn’t cancer, particularly corporate social media with ai bullshit.
Did you forget that you’re writing this on a platform where most people are anti-corporate, leftist, linux-using ai-haters?
Did you forget that you’re writing this on a platform where most people are anti-corporate, leftist, linux-using ai-haters?
nop, but that doesnt justify dishonesty in my book
… You tried to say you’re arguing with a hypocrite who doesn’t care about ai tools being abused on other platforms but that’s an intentional lie and I just demonstrated it. Some vague bullshit about “dishonesty” makes you look worse, not better.
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So don’t mistake this for me thinking you’re here in good faith at all. You’re not. You’re intentionally spreading lies.
But it’s okay that you aren’t fluent in English as long as you don’t insist on spreading toxic lies in broken English. But you are doing that. So fucking stop it. Unless it’s also part of the act, you cannot even express a coherent thought. A typo or missing word in every sentence. I’m not playing “guess what the Nazi means”.
From what i saw gemini also did it.
Citation?
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I understand that some LLM’s have this capability.
I thought you were comparing two similar things, like Gemini was integrated with another social media platform somewhere providing the same, easily accessible, integrated means of creating these kinds of images.
Seems that it’s just vague whattaboutism on your part.
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Sure, but the context isn’t about the ability, its about the accessibility (ease of doing the thing) and the tacit endorsement of the act.
Saying “yeah but {X} can also do that” isn’t really relevant here.
While i love the fediverse it doesnt have the massive userbase that make it great.
That’s the whole point, it’s not meant to be for celebrities wanting to have a massive user base (and yet).
Neither is this reddit btw.
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You link doesnt work.
True, it was supposed to be a link to George Takei’s mastodon profile: @georgetakei@universeodon.com. There are other celebrities also, as well as politicians, journalists, organizations, etc.
The rest of your answer is justifying quantity over quality (i know which one i prefer) and being in the wrong platform to begin with.
I agree with you that there is currently nothing equivalent to Twitter. Especially in terms of the number of Russian and other foreign government trolls, the glorification of fascist efforts, and the number of inactive accounts.
Also agree that fediverse currently lacks the massive user base to be the best alternative at this moment.
Twitter was awesome 10 years ago. Current Bluesky is pretty much the twitter before it became an uncool fascist troll shithole, and it does have quite a user base. Hence, for now it’s the best alternative imho. Presumably not until eternity, but for now it is.
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What X account? Or Bluesky for that matter…
If your user name is closely tied to your online identity, I am hesitant to delete if they recycle the usernames and some total nut job takes your old handle and people think you’ve gone off the deep end - just a thought.
Understandable, especially when there might be a lot of links to the profile around the internet. However, in that particular case it’s still possible to delete all content, contacts / follows, followers, and profile images and descriptions etcetera, make the profile private, and give it some semi-permanent dead existence, or delete if a year later or so.
This is definitely an aspect of social media in general. An argument can be made to register your profile and let it lie dormant just to avoid it being hijacked. Hijacking has been an issue in BlueSky during the Twitter migration bursts. Sure - the companies can use the registration for statistics, and the decision to register is somewhere between performance and personal integrity.
