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Destroy Reality. Create a Multiverse.

MULTIVERSE is a PieFed instance for soulists. Our rules are designed to create a safe space for minorities, including those considered unreal by society. We are also an anarchist instance and do not allow tankie propaganda. We aim for transparent and fair moderation in line with the principles of anarcho-antirealism, and to be fertile ground for discussion of soulist ideology. We also aim to be intuitive to use for new fediverse denizens who don’t care how federation works, and are just interested in the politics. Our manifesto can be found at http://soulism.net/.

    • comfy@lemmy.mlEnglish
      11·
      12 days ago

      I’m not a soulist like the user you replied to, but for another perspective, mine is that rights are imaginary constructs which mean nothing if unenforceable.

      People have some rights to not be murdered; that’s not an opinion if we have a compatible definition of ‘rights’, it’s written in law, it’s ingrained into mainstream liberalist social norms and ethics. So the right exists as a social idea which sometimes manifests in real consequences. However:

      • I can get murdered by the government or law enforcement who proclaim to enforce my right to not be murdered! It’s a conditional right, not the idealistic universal right it’s often made out to be.
      • And there are some people who I wouldn’t really care if they were murdered. I don’t weep for Wnssolᴉuᴉ’s lynching. I don’t mind that Ken McElroy’s murderers weren’t charged. Sometimes we just don’t have the luxury or power to go through the ideal routes of justice. And to be clear I also don’t advocate for murder for a big long list of reasons, many of them are obvious. For example, I think the assassination of Brian Thompson was morally just and cathartic, it stopped an antisocial social murderer who would not have been held accountable by law, and the fear it created may feasibly have saved some lives of UHC customers in the short term, but ultimately I do not advocate for such adventurism as it’s proven historically to do little to create long-term systemic improvements, and can easily go wrong and cause more damage than benefit, as we saw with the “golden age of Propaganda of the Deed”.
    • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      12 days ago

      all of these anarchist flavors are a form of relativism where all that matters is people’s individual feelings.

      it’s a form of solipsism when you start asking questions about it.

      and when you draw it out, it inevitable leads to consequences that totally contradict it’s tenants. but anarchists… don’t do that… they just feel the feelings, man.

      anarchism is great if you never think, but some flavors of it regard thinking as an undue burden foist upon people by a unjust society… hence why you are getting these absurd answer about how gravity is unjust and cruel. I suppose they also regard having to eat/drink/breathe as injustices that ‘society’ forces upon us.

      • hector@lemmy.todayEnglish
        2·
        12 days ago

        My experience with anarchists, limted though it is, their hearts are in the right place, they know what sides they are not on, but do not neccessarily know a lot outside of their doctrine. But they will fight.

        So better than most all. Knowing what side you are NOT on is becoming rarer.

        • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          12 days ago

          most people don’t care about sides. they just care about money.

          and rightfully so. your theory or political stance can’t buy you food or a car or other basic necessities.

            • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              9 days ago

              nobody doesn’t care about money. anyone who says they don’t is a liar and are usually the people who are the most easily bought.

              • rako@tarte.nuage-libre.frFrançais
                1·
                9 days ago

                You must care about money in a capitalist world, of course; the real question is do you want money to matter all the time or not

                • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  9 days ago

                  it doesn’t matter what you want, society dictates the rules.

                  unless you go off the grid or something. then you can go make your perfect society, because there won’t be one.

                  • rako@tarte.nuage-libre.frFrançais
                    11·
                    9 days ago

                    Society isn’t fate. It doesn’t come out of nothing. Accepting/keeping the status quo is accepting the balance that exists, and it’s been going right for a dong time.

                    It’s not just about what you can or can’t do, it’s about where you’re pushing to

          • hector@lemmy.todayEnglish
            2·
            12 days ago

            That is true. They would care about sides if there was a good side that fought against them being taken advantage of. People try to win rural, red areas being conservative light. They need new dealist. Too late now maybe.

            • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              12 days ago

              they call any new deal type thinking ‘populism’ and lump it in with Trump.

              the ‘new deal’ rural areas are getting is shitty Data centers fucking up their landscapes and giving them zero jobs.

              • hector@lemmy.todayEnglish
                2·
                11 days ago

                Yep, dem establishment’s raison de etre is not beating republicans but quashing popular reform, then extracting money from their and for their donor patrons.

                It is dumbass logic. They call the far right populist. The far right are pieces of shit. Therefore populists are bad.

                In a country that chooses leaders with popular votes. Truth is dumber than fiction this is the argument influence ops and sheep will endlessly yell you down with.

                The far right are fake popular anyway. They scspegoat, or promist to fix issues they want to make worse. Although a handful lile mtg actually believe the hype bless them.

                Everyone knows they are getting screwed if not by whom. We all know they do not know better, and or refuse to continually endorse an ever worsening party whose only selling point is the other guy is worse.

                Facing an existential threat in nazis, they figured to stick to the anti popular plan. And STILL do. I am sick of trying to argue it. The not voting people were right all along, it was all pointless. I still want to try, but under these dems there is no chance.