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    The ruble is expected to weaken further with the beginning of the winter holiday season

    Absolutely, and then again when the Russian central bank has to open currency trade again after new year.

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      1 month ago

      Not if Trump forces Ukraine to give up the three occupied regions.

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        That’s not even an option. How do you figure Trump would be able to do that? It’s ridiculous.
        There are limits to what Trump can do, without retaliation from the rest of NATO. Trump may be stupid, but he is not THAT stupid.

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          So how would he act on his concepts of a plan on stopping the war quickly? In what world would Putin agree to give up the gains of 10 years with so much lost?

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            I have no idea, but he can’t FORCE Ukraine to give up territory. That’s not saying I know what he WILL do, but I know some things he CAN’T do.
            EU supports Ukraine in their claim to get ALL territories back, including Crimea.

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              The US support has always been viewed as crucial, which is probably why Zelensky was so eager to please Trump by being among the first to congratulate him. If you were to ask me, I’d say Europe is strong enough to help Ukraine win, but one could argue that the will would wane if America pulls out. Moreover, there are reports that suggest the Ukrainian decision-makers are prepared for territorial concessions.

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                From your link:

                Ukraine is being told it will have to make serious territorial concessions

                That’s not agreeing to make concessions. And a piece built on MAGA claims is not really an interesting read IMO.
                If you want to make a point based on an article, quote the part you think support it.

                if America pulls out.

                America is in no way in Ukraine, so they can’t “pull out”.

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                  From my link:

                  Of course, this means Russian President Vladimir Putin’s thuggishness will be rewarded, that there will be no accountability for the bestial nature of his army’s atrocious behavior or the unlawful, detestable deportations from occupied parts of Ukraine to Russia. The axis of autocrats will be emboldened in their determination to smash the old global order.

                  But there’s no other alternative. Short of a “forever war” or Western powers becoming combatants themselves — or at least putting their economies on a war footing to supply Ukraine with much more than they currently are — that’s the cold hard reality.

                  And according to a Republican foreign policy expert familiar with Zelenskyy and his circle, Kyiv understands this. Asking to remain anonymous in order to speak candidly, Kyiv now reckons Trump may well turn out to be a better option than Harris, he said.

                  Also:

                  After Trump’s win, Florida Senator Marco Rubio, who’s being tipped as the new secretary of State, said that Russia’s war against Ukraine had reached a “stalemate” that’s costing lives and “needs to be brought to a conclusion.” He described Ukrainians as “incredibly brave and strong,” but also noted “the reality of the war.”

                  Zelenskyy understands that too — not that he’s going to shout it from the rooftops. As war-weariness mounts, public opinion in Ukraine has been changing, especially among the young, who are the most willing to accept limited outcomes. According to a poll conducted this summer, only 40 percent of those aged 18 to 25 think Ukraine should fight until it liberates all its territory.

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            Please tell me how Ukraine would agree to the same, having lost lots of lives too.

            And it’s theirs after all.

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          Right, though I can foresee some concessions regarding Kherson and Zaporizhzhia. Russia had a presence in Luhansk, Donetsk, and Crimea for a lot longer.