If President-elect Donald Trump makes good on his threat to kill federal tax credits for electric vehicle purchases, it’s likely that fewer buyers will choose EVs.
I’m still personally in a position where I could not own an EV. A hybrid, sure. But an EV, I cannot charge because I’m in an apartment. EV ownership is tied to home ownership in a way that I see few people discuss.
Once they get charging times down further it will be better. They’re talking about 10 minute charges soon. The other thing we need to do though is get businesses and parking lot owners on board with charging stations. Just literally everywhere, especially long visit businesses like grocery stores and restaurants.
This exactly. The battery tech needs to be such that I can get the same energy density into my vehicle without having to change my habits around the technology.
Couple that with the fact that battery production is crazy dirty and bad for the environment anyway, I’m still not sure the EV is “it”.
What’s interesting is some places like grocery stores installed chargers, but then removed them because of all the EV owners taking up spots but not actually shopping at the stores.
Which would be solved by requiring a purchase to avoid a parking charge. But I’ve seen the opposite where the plaza owner puts them in and is quite happy to have people walking around the plaza.
You just charge at a supercharger once in a while, or plug in to an L2 that are all over the place. You don’t have a gas station in your appartment either.
Sure, but gas station availability is still significantly different than charger availability. And I don’t have to wait an hour at the gas station. False equivalency.
When it changes from pretty close to yes, then it won’t be a false equivalency and I’d probably be in the market.
Edit: anyone disagreeing, can you explain how a technology that asks some population to change their behavior is expected to succeed? The EV asks its buyers to change their habits. It asks you to take the hit for the climate – while simultaneously using technologies like modern batteries which are straight up bad for the climate.
Asking these things to be at parity with gas (as in, can I fill my electric car with power with the same speed as a gas car) is not a lofty goal. It is the baseline goal for any other technology. EV tech will remain outside of the norm until those issues are addressed. The intentions don’t matter.
How often do you need to travel the entire range your car allows?
If you do need to drop everything and drive across country in an EV, you should be stopping at service stations to do short fast charge sessions anyway, as with modern fast chargers and battery tech you will typically go from something like 30% SoC to say 70% in only a few minutes. This saves a lot of time on longer trips.
If you are driving an EV by depleting the battery completely and then charging it back to 100% every time, you are doing it wrong.
This is not surprising.
I’m still personally in a position where I could not own an EV. A hybrid, sure. But an EV, I cannot charge because I’m in an apartment. EV ownership is tied to home ownership in a way that I see few people discuss.
Once they get charging times down further it will be better. They’re talking about 10 minute charges soon. The other thing we need to do though is get businesses and parking lot owners on board with charging stations. Just literally everywhere, especially long visit businesses like grocery stores and restaurants.
I’m all-in if they do a 10-minute charge.
This exactly. The battery tech needs to be such that I can get the same energy density into my vehicle without having to change my habits around the technology.
Couple that with the fact that battery production is crazy dirty and bad for the environment anyway, I’m still not sure the EV is “it”.
Yeah there is going to be a big problem when all these batteries are dead. I know they can recycle a lot of them but WILL they?
It feels like battery tech should be further along by now.
What’s interesting is some places like grocery stores installed chargers, but then removed them because of all the EV owners taking up spots but not actually shopping at the stores.
Which would be solved by requiring a purchase to avoid a parking charge. But I’ve seen the opposite where the plaza owner puts them in and is quite happy to have people walking around the plaza.
You just charge at a supercharger once in a while, or plug in to an L2 that are all over the place. You don’t have a gas station in your appartment either.
Sure, but gas station availability is still significantly different than charger availability. And I don’t have to wait an hour at the gas station. False equivalency.
You don’t have to wait an hour. False premise.
Can I supply the entire range of the EV in 10 minutes?
If you buy a new Hyundai, pretty close.
When it changes from pretty close to yes, then it won’t be a false equivalency and I’d probably be in the market.
Edit: anyone disagreeing, can you explain how a technology that asks some population to change their behavior is expected to succeed? The EV asks its buyers to change their habits. It asks you to take the hit for the climate – while simultaneously using technologies like modern batteries which are straight up bad for the climate.
Asking these things to be at parity with gas (as in, can I fill my electric car with power with the same speed as a gas car) is not a lofty goal. It is the baseline goal for any other technology. EV tech will remain outside of the norm until those issues are addressed. The intentions don’t matter.
The more evs, the more the infrastructure will adapt
100% true, but it’s still a chicken and egg problem
How often do you need to travel the entire range your car allows?
If you do need to drop everything and drive across country in an EV, you should be stopping at service stations to do short fast charge sessions anyway, as with modern fast chargers and battery tech you will typically go from something like 30% SoC to say 70% in only a few minutes. This saves a lot of time on longer trips.
If you are driving an EV by depleting the battery completely and then charging it back to 100% every time, you are doing it wrong.
Many supermarkets and gyms have a charging station. You charge your car while you shop or exercise.