This is referring to all the people who say I own this gun to protect against a tyrannical government. While I agree fighting a tyrannical government is noble Most of those people aren’t serious about it and are just LARPing. If you are serious about fighting for your freedom then you’d know that fighting alone will get you nowhere. No revolution or civil war has ever been won by scattered armed individuals with no organization, you need to join a group to be effective.

But all the militias are full of right wing psychos

Yeah, but you won’t be able to change their mind from the outside. Join one and try to educate them on true freedom from the billionaire capitalist class. Worst case scenario even if they don’t respond you’ll still be training and learning how to work in a group, and you can be a spy and learn their tactics and how to defeat them in the case of a civil war.

I’ll just buy the gun now and join a group once shit starts going down

That’s the wrong order, get organized and then buy weapons. Left wing organizations will be banned and forced underground long before guns are. There’s a very high probability trump will ban armed left wing groups in the next couple years, him restricting gun purchases is far less likely. It’s best to get in an organization and build trust before it goes underground because after they are banned they are rightfully more picky on who they let in for fear of informants.

  • Fondots@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 days ago

    Yeah, but you won’t be able to change their mind from the outside. Join one and try to educate them on true freedom from the billionaire capitalist class. Worst case scenario even if they don’t respond you’ll still be training and learning how to work in a group, and you can be a spy and learn their tactics and how to defeat them in the case of a civil war.

    You won’t be able to change their minds from the inside either, these types are a lost cause, they’re the most radical true believers. If you try they’re going to be suspicious of you, kick you out, keep you in the dark, maybe even get violent.

    Maybe you can be effective as a spy, but who are you spying for, you’ need some kind of group who’s able to act on that intel, if you’re planning to hand it off to the police or something you have to

    1. Trust the police to act on it, which is a tall order these days
    2. Make sure that you’re toeing the line on legality to make sure that they can act on it and that you won’t land yourself in legal trouble because you, for example, recorded someone without their consent.

    So you’re going to need some sort of network already in place before you go into this, maybe you’re lucky enough to have some good cops that you can trust, maybe some journalists you can pass info off to, maybe another militia you’re already involved in. You can’t just throw yourself into a militia and hope you’ll put the pieces together later, they’re going to be watching you, these people are already pretty paranoid, that’s why they’re in a militia to begin with, and if you suddenly vanish once you have your Intel on them, you’ve got a target on your back, and you need someone ready to act on it right away.

    If you want to do the militia thing, you should be seeking out one that’s already left-leaning (there are a few) or start your own, which means at some point you’re probably going to have to be that guy with an AR playing at being in a militia until you actually have one.