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While our cadets compete to join an elite team at the Academy, a battle of escalating pranks breaks out between Starfleet Academy and a rival school. Tensions rise fast, threatening their newly-emerging bonds and a blossoming romance.

Written by: Alex Taub & Kiley Rossetter

Directed by: Doug Aarniokoski

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        5 hours ago

        Same here! It’s interesting and well done so far and honestly has a charm to it.

        I mean personally the only 2 Star Trek stuff I’ve not liked at all is Section 31 & Star Trek Nemesis.

        I haven’t seen all of Trek. I’m basically catching up on it still.

        For context I’ve seen The Next Generation (and all the TNG movies), Deep Space Nine, Discovery, Picard, Strange New Worlds.

        Currently watching TOS and I’m on the last season for that.

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    18 hours ago

    This one was a bit better than the first two, but still not my cup of tea.

    Spoiler

    I appreciate the idea of moving the starfleet headquarters, I always found the Earth (US) centricity to be unrealistic.

    I still hope this whole future created by DIS to be retconned away, though.

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    4 days ago

    That was a really fun episode, I’m enjoying this show way more than I expected.

    I want some warp core pajamas.

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      I want some warp core pajamas.

      Right? Glad I’m not the only one! I also want Thok’s workout jacket thing.

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    I think I might have liked this series more if it came out like 15 years ago. Right now it just comes off as immature and overly quirky/comedic.

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    Where I am right now in the real world is such that I could use … I dono, somehow low-stakes but fun? I get that good scifi is sometimes high stakes / somebody might die / high drama entertainment, but sometimes something that’s more … down-to-earth is good. I think that scifi has spent too much time lately trying to be intense, but hey I’m just a rando on the internet so what do I know?

    I still adore Capt Ake. I don’t think that Capt Ake had the actual plan that they implemented in her mind. She was expecting them to settle this “their way” or I guess “her way” which she was trying to imprint upon Starfleet. She figured that the Vitus Reflux spores would be really funny. And they had no way of knowing one critical piece of information, which was how to get into Kelrec’s hidey closet, and I’m imagining that she was probably totally surprised and delighted as to how they fit things together into a proper workable plan. And this is kinda how you get people to grow? If they don’t have the complete plan right away (hacking their computer during exam week is a bad idea) but look like they just need a poke in the right direction, don’t give them a plan, give them a poke.

    Likewise, Capt Ake didn’t go to Kelrec for the first prank, she went there once it was clear that he was acting as ringleader.

    “Leadership, according to Capt Ake” is clearly a book. It’s a different, more eccentric book than “Leadership, according to Capt Picard” but no less useful.

    I was spoilered that Thok and Reno were going to be a thing but the scene where they show it had me dying with giggles. “It’ll brie allright?” And then also Thok’s earlier “They shenanned once, they’ll shenann again” shows either that one of them has been encouraging the other or that they are two peas in a very bad pod.

    Also, I am glad that we can welcome Darem into the ranks of disaster bisexuals without quite as much need for subtext as … well, Kirk or Riker.

    I think it’s funny that Thok can’t just say “there will be tryouts for Calica” without tossing in a mini speech about how lucky they will be to live until tomorrow or stopping a potential fisticuffs by saying that no blood shall be shed without her permission. And then returning it to the end with the line about meditating on decapitation. Her over-the-top “RELEASE THE DRONES” and everything.

    I love the extra bits of silly Klingon lore. Klingons loving blood in their cuisine … yeah, that is saying what was logically there the whole time. But then the “what is this gagh doing in my aO’mat Gri?” joke.

    And it was really funny to have the quality of the Mugato mascot costume be … at about the level of the actual Mugato costume in TOS.

    With the Romulan cadet Dzolo from the War College, Genesis, and Capt Ake, you have three very small and unassuming women being very spicy. I also love that B’Avi stood up with the same sort of Vulcan “have you prepared new insults for me?” energy that baby Spock was on the receiving end of in the 2009 Star Trek.

    Oh and they put everybody in the underwear without nearly the same energy as the decom room on NX-01 or Star Trek Into Darkness.

    There’s a little bit of Starship Troopers, the movie, in here. Enough to maybe even be a bit intentional? Same mixed-gender showers, recruiting video, etc. Even the tryouts for Calica felt like they were channeling it. And … just like I hope people are getting the intention of Trek trying to show what a better future might be like, I am hoping that the writers knew what Paul Verhoeven was trying to show in that movie.

    This supports the War College vs Starfleet Academy thing that I was hoping to see. The ending with both the notion that you can use empathy to win without combat as well as Capt Ake’s follow-on to Caleb’s question about what to do when somebody does want the fear. Also Jay-Den being a pacifist.

    There’s a lot of speeding-up here, e.g. Darem could have been a little more show and a little less tell, but also it’s a short season? Clearly making room for whatever the Caleb / Tarima story is going to be.

    So, yeah, it’s accidentally what I wanted right now, so I’m still having fun watching it.

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    5 days ago

    Not a lot to say about this one - I’m just glad Reno found someone.

    And we have a stardate!

    868858.7 - that puts it pretty definitively after DSC season 5 (coda excepted), assuming stardates are, you know, linear.

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      868858.7 - that puts it pretty definitively after DSC season 5

      Was that in question Reno being an instructor would seem proof enough that it was after her time on Discovery.

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        Kurtzman has made some nebulous comments about there being some overlap, so I was open to the possibility that this was happening between seasons or during season five or something.

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          I wonder if the production staff just couldn’t make up their mind to begin with honestly, because if you look close at Lura Thok’s personnel file from E01 it says she’s born in 3145 and is 50 years old, so you’re back to 3195 again.

          Personally I don’t really trust relying on stardates for years in this future era since DIS wasn’t really consistent about it, so I’m hoping someone will actually cite a year out loud at some point and get rid of the wondering.

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            In general, I’m a firm believer in “stardates were made to be nonsense, and should be treated as such,” but they’re fun to puzzle over once in a while.

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    I watched 28 minutes and decided I’m gonna let this show go. I feel like I gave it a shot, the first two episodes weren’t terrible. I wouldn’t even say this episode was terrible (the ½ I watched), I just got very bored.

    If like Lower Decks this show turns around to be great, do let me know and I might go back and watch it.

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    I didn’t realize this was releasing, so I binged and got all caught up.

    Where is Sylvia Tilly? I thought the whole point of her being an instructor at the Academy was so she’d be here.

    Also, what’s up with Captain Ake being…extremely unprofessional? Not to say I need my captains to always be stoic. But I feel there is some hypocrisy with how she acts and also dressed down Mir for not standing at attention, when she’s lazying around the captain’s chair or running around barefoot.

    I can understand cadets being unprofessional, and needing to be broken in, but when the ranking officer is too… something don’t feel right.

    The entire premise of high school/college drama and tropes, I’m not against this. It’s not as artificial as I sometimes feel it can be in media target at young adults, but it also is a little bit… Which is slightly bothersome, but I feel they’re also handling it well because it does appear to come with some character growth, but my fear is that that growth is coming too quick and they’ll just reset some character growth back to give themselves room to have character drama.

    I don’t know where I stand on this series just yet. It’s not bad though.

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      Where is Sylvia Tilly?

      She was only ever announced as a guest star (which is bizarre), and one report has suggested that she’ll only be in one episode this season (which is…bizarrer).

      Mary Wiseman was at the premier though, so I assume she’s on good terms with everyone. Maybe we’ll see more of her in season two.

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        If we assume that season one of SFA is taking place at the same time as Discovery season two, then we might expect Tilly to join as a more frequent recurring character in future seasons.

        My read of the situation is that the original backdoor trailer did SFA that was in Discovery season four was very much not viewed as a success by Paramount executives — to the point that the central roles for Adira and Tilly in the ensemble were written out and rethought entirely.

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          The whole situation is rather odd, but I’m not comfortable speculating about what may have happened.

          I’m just glad that things seem to be okay between Wiseman and production, and there at least seems to be a chance that we’ll see more of her in the future.

          “All Is Possible” was really not a favourite of mine, though.

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            I get the discomfort about speculation.

            It definitely sounds like there’s been ‘stuff’ behind the scenes already. Not TNG Chaos on the Bridge or Disco season one and two level, but definitely frictions.

            (The actor who plays Genesis recently let slip when asked about Jonathan Frakes, that he’d been originally scheduled to direct her character’s second season feature episode but there had been “fighting going on” and Frakes was pushed back to directing a later episode!)

            If the backdoor pilot episode in Disco season four didn’t work the way they’d hoped, it would be unfortunate if the characters and their actors have paid the price for the ‘notes’ from the senior executives.

            However, as we saw with Number One in ‘The Cage’ if the the television franchise head thinks it’s worthwhile to bring back a character or an actor, one or both will happen eventually.

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              (The actor who plays Genesis recently let slip when asked about Jonathan Frakes, that he’d been originally scheduled to direct her character’s second season feature episode but there had been “fighting going on” and Frakes was pushed back to directing a later episode!)

              Oh interesting…I tracked this down, and it looks like she said “conflict,” which could mean…just about anything, right down to simple scheduling conflicts.

              One thing’s for certain: making TV is hard.

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                  Interesting - it’s possible we’re drawing from different sources. I found this TrekMovie piece:

                  He was supposed to be directing Genesis’s episode, actually, in season 2, but there was some conflict going on, and hopefully he’ll be back again. He’s the warmest, kindest person.

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      what’s up with Captain Ake being…extremely unprofessional?

      Uh, are we watching the same show? She seems to have the complete and total respect of those around her, including Dadmiral and even the bad guy.

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      I think that between her and Pelia, it is clear they are positioning Lanthanites as very quirky people

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    I like seeing the personal growth of these characters kicking in early. And that we don’t only focus on Caleb. When’s my Jay-den episode coming?

    And while I didn’t think I‘d like the post-burn setting, it gives our characters a reason to reiterate what Star Fleet and the Federation stand for. In the classic shows, there wasn’t really a reason so argue what the federation is supposed to be (because it was objectively extremely successful the way it was). I enjoy seeing our characters rebuilding this utopia.

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    This episode started rough with the gym lens flare being so strong I couldn’t even look at the TV. The War College gave up a little easy, but I expect them to be back harder and stronger, I hope they get a big win just to help even things out.

    Also something I appreciate is all the security this episode and the previous episodes have had. So many Star Trek plots would have been fooled with even the most basic of security, so seeing someone need proper authorization or cloning an eyeball is surprisingly new for Trek.

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    I don’t like teen dramas and I don’t particularly like romance plots, can someone explain why I’m loving this show so much?

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      He’s a central character in the upcoming comic book so I’m guessing that means we will.

      He’s got some serious chemistry with Jay-Den, too.