Neoliberals: The people can’t be trusted to know what’s best for them, so we need a professional-managerial class to make decisions. Don’t worry, we’ll let people elect them, but it’ll be on our terms and we will control the narrative. It’s meritocratic!
Tankies: The workers can’t be trusted to know what’s best for them, so we need a bureaucracy comprised of intelligentsia to guide the way to communism. Don’t worry, only true proletarians will be allowed into our bureaucracy, and workers can organize themselves so long as it’s on our terms. And don’t you dare call it a class!
Anarchists: The people have a basic right to self-determination and power should be distributed as equitably as possible between all people so they can make their own decisions, good or bad. People can and should organize themselves in a variety of ways on their own terms so long as they do not subjugate others, as hierarchies at scale form the basis of class society.
Neoliberals and Tankies (in unison): Stupid naive anarkiddie, don’t you know people need their betters to tell them what to do! Stick with what actually works and keep your dumb ideas of autonomy and free association to yourself (hides evidence of countless atrocities behind their backs).
Not the ones on slrpnk.net. I sometimes go to their spaces, usually to argue, sometimes to commiserate on points of agreement, but authoritarianism is absolutely unwelcome on slrpnk.net. That’s a good thing about the fediverse, that it allows people to cultivate protected spaces while still allowing interaction with those outside of them, but always on your own terms.
Now there’s plenty of self-described anarchists that hang out with the tankies on .ml and hexbear, but those are usually people who have either been tankies themselves and are deconstructing or they are non-committal anarchists on the path to becoming tankies.
That’s My main critique of dbzer0. It’s got way too many tankies. Here on MULTIVERSE if I see a user spreading authoritarianism, odds are they’re on dbzer0.
I am in a group with my prog-lib neighbors doing the same thing. Anarchists have always put themselves on the frontlines, and I’m grateful to have a bunch of prog-libs join me now.
Neoliberals: The people can’t be trusted to know what’s best for them, so we need a professional-managerial class to make decisions. Don’t worry, we’ll let people elect them, but it’ll be on our terms and we will control the narrative. It’s meritocratic!
Tankies: The workers can’t be trusted to know what’s best for them, so we need a bureaucracy comprised of intelligentsia to guide the way to communism. Don’t worry, only true proletarians will be allowed into our bureaucracy, and workers can organize themselves so long as it’s on our terms. And don’t you dare call it a class!
Anarchists: The people have a basic right to self-determination and power should be distributed as equitably as possible between all people so they can make their own decisions, good or bad. People can and should organize themselves in a variety of ways on their own terms so long as they do not subjugate others, as hierarchies at scale form the basis of class society.
Neoliberals and Tankies (in unison): Stupid naive anarkiddie, don’t you know people need their betters to tell them what to do! Stick with what actually works and keep your dumb ideas of autonomy and free association to yourself (hides evidence of countless atrocities behind their backs).
That’s why I always call tankies radical centrists
They swing wildly in the secret third dimension instead. Political compass is more like a Klein bottle
Except on Lemmy the Anarchists welcome the Tankies to their spaces so they can shit on Libs together.
Tankie bullshit isn’t allowed on MULTIVERSE, the anarcho-antirealist instance
Not the ones on slrpnk.net. I sometimes go to their spaces, usually to argue, sometimes to commiserate on points of agreement, but authoritarianism is absolutely unwelcome on slrpnk.net. That’s a good thing about the fediverse, that it allows people to cultivate protected spaces while still allowing interaction with those outside of them, but always on your own terms.
Now there’s plenty of self-described anarchists that hang out with the tankies on .ml and hexbear, but those are usually people who have either been tankies themselves and are deconstructing or they are non-committal anarchists on the path to becoming tankies.
I’m mainly thinking of dbzer0.
That’s My main critique of dbzer0. It’s got way too many tankies. Here on MULTIVERSE if I see a user spreading authoritarianism, odds are they’re on dbzer0.
meanwhile proglibs are just trying to help our neighbors make it through the hellscape.
I am in a group with my prog-lib neighbors doing the same thing. Anarchists have always put themselves on the frontlines, and I’m grateful to have a bunch of prog-libs join me now.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.