And will you run from the country you go to and leave it to fend for itself, too?
Why can’t you people stand for something other than yourselves? It starts with voting, if you get the chance.
Just do your duty you lazy, lazy shits. Fucking vote, if you get a chance again. In the meantime stay home, peacefully shut production down which is now your only option, and don’t let this shit happen again.
Here we go, fucking excuses again, touched with an insult this time.
You douche rocketeer, how the fuck do you think Republicans have gained so much control over several elections? Because they voted. They didn’t piss and moan like you, they voted.
It’s no fucking coup you clown, the citizens voted them in and they’re now doubling down on fascism. They didn’t coup it, they were handed it on a platter. Over several elections as well.
You have no excuses. Stop pissing and moaning. Now it’s a national shutdown or you’re fucked. Try the easy way next time, goose.
I’m not talking about the Republicans that were voted for. I’m talking about who they are now becoming. This is very obviously a coordinated effort to change the foundations of our system into something it’s not.
The US citizenry has had ample chances among several warnings, including a trial run, to fix this. They never turn out in enough numbers to make any difference. In 2016 you were telling people who were telling you to vote to mind their own business and it was a right not to vote.
The Republicans were always the same. They haven’t changed, there’s just no mask now.
That’s okay, I swung a couple back which I guess I shouldn’t have either.
FUCK. just… Idk FUCK. I’m pretty sure we are both on the same side but are equally pissed off from opposite sides of the same problem
We are all experiencing the consequences of a plan laid out long before people were looking close enough to see pawns for the queens.
I think the “so what do we do now” argument is over. We are at triage levels now. Yes protests are necessary. Protests are the immune system that will save us all eventually, but I’m not a leukocyte. I am a platelet. I am the strong back with a broom and a shovel that will clean up when it’s over. The survivors are the ones who rebuild.
I’m just annoyed that Americans as a collective can’t take the responsibility of voting seriously. Can’t take the easier route to what they want.
These people know the population won’t vote and are dependent on that. It truly is the reason why that country has the leaders it has, and the quality those leaders reflect the participation. Sure, I know there are obstacles such as the Electoral College but an 80-90% turnout stops all that.
Really, with the system that exists there, the only way is to put in those needed in primaries with a huge turnout, then vote for those in the major election. If that doesn’t quite work in the primaries, vote anyway and go again. It’s the only way; the current incumbents aren’t going to offer a better system or change the way they think.
There are three things that can change this now. One is international intervention, in the sense that enough nations cut complete ties with the US. The second is that the or enough members of both houses come together to impeach. These two aren’t that likely in my view but that’s an opinion, I might be wrong.
The third, the one in the citizens hands, the easiest way out now, is to stop work, purchasing, everything…shut the means of production down. Hopefully that would put number two into play. That requires unity and a self imposed hardship that I don’t think exists in that country unfortunately.
I 100% agree voting is the way forward but what if things have changed and it takes a couple election cycles to truly recognize the scope of the damage? I think the curt plan for righting the ship isn’t working. I worry that it’s already too late to vote our way out of this. Russia, North Korea, Syria, Romania vote too. How do we get back what we have lost?
I wish I had the balls to stop work to protest. I’m not allowed to talk too much about my job but I am basically the only person who makes a thing that the majority of the naval fleet pilots use to do their missile jobs. I’m deeply anti establishment but I’m personally knckle deep in the machine.
Right now I’m not sure if you’ll get a fair vote while this mobs in power.
It’s going to take shutdown.
As for what you do…yeah, you’re knuckle deep and perhaps one of the rare exceptions. Even civilians in those roles are kinda trapped. I’ve been close enough to people in those kinds of positions to understand that your hands are tied. Your chance to do something positive will come, though you already are.
The same will apply to a few crucial people; they won’t be able to move.
And will you run from the country you go to and leave it to fend for itself, too?
Why can’t you people stand for something other than yourselves? It starts with voting, if you get the chance.
Just do your duty you lazy, lazy shits. Fucking vote, if you get a chance again. In the meantime stay home, peacefully shut production down which is now your only option, and don’t let this shit happen again.
You dumb shit. It’s a fucking US government coup. No one ever voted out a dictator.
Here we go, fucking excuses again, touched with an insult this time.
You douche rocketeer, how the fuck do you think Republicans have gained so much control over several elections? Because they voted. They didn’t piss and moan like you, they voted.
It’s no fucking coup you clown, the citizens voted them in and they’re now doubling down on fascism. They didn’t coup it, they were handed it on a platter. Over several elections as well.
You have no excuses. Stop pissing and moaning. Now it’s a national shutdown or you’re fucked. Try the easy way next time, goose.
I’m not talking about the Republicans that were voted for. I’m talking about who they are now becoming. This is very obviously a coordinated effort to change the foundations of our system into something it’s not.
I apologize for the insult. That was not cool.
Which we all knew about, the whole world knew.
The US citizenry has had ample chances among several warnings, including a trial run, to fix this. They never turn out in enough numbers to make any difference. In 2016 you were telling people who were telling you to vote to mind their own business and it was a right not to vote.
The Republicans were always the same. They haven’t changed, there’s just no mask now.
That’s okay, I swung a couple back which I guess I shouldn’t have either.
FUCK. just… Idk FUCK. I’m pretty sure we are both on the same side but are equally pissed off from opposite sides of the same problem
We are all experiencing the consequences of a plan laid out long before people were looking close enough to see pawns for the queens.
I think the “so what do we do now” argument is over. We are at triage levels now. Yes protests are necessary. Protests are the immune system that will save us all eventually, but I’m not a leukocyte. I am a platelet. I am the strong back with a broom and a shovel that will clean up when it’s over. The survivors are the ones who rebuild.
I’m just annoyed that Americans as a collective can’t take the responsibility of voting seriously. Can’t take the easier route to what they want.
These people know the population won’t vote and are dependent on that. It truly is the reason why that country has the leaders it has, and the quality those leaders reflect the participation. Sure, I know there are obstacles such as the Electoral College but an 80-90% turnout stops all that.
Really, with the system that exists there, the only way is to put in those needed in primaries with a huge turnout, then vote for those in the major election. If that doesn’t quite work in the primaries, vote anyway and go again. It’s the only way; the current incumbents aren’t going to offer a better system or change the way they think.
There are three things that can change this now. One is international intervention, in the sense that enough nations cut complete ties with the US. The second is that the or enough members of both houses come together to impeach. These two aren’t that likely in my view but that’s an opinion, I might be wrong.
The third, the one in the citizens hands, the easiest way out now, is to stop work, purchasing, everything…shut the means of production down. Hopefully that would put number two into play. That requires unity and a self imposed hardship that I don’t think exists in that country unfortunately.
Voting really is important.
Edited: second last paragraph
I 100% agree voting is the way forward but what if things have changed and it takes a couple election cycles to truly recognize the scope of the damage? I think the curt plan for righting the ship isn’t working. I worry that it’s already too late to vote our way out of this. Russia, North Korea, Syria, Romania vote too. How do we get back what we have lost?
I wish I had the balls to stop work to protest. I’m not allowed to talk too much about my job but I am basically the only person who makes a thing that the majority of the naval fleet pilots use to do their missile jobs. I’m deeply anti establishment but I’m personally knckle deep in the machine.
Right now I’m not sure if you’ll get a fair vote while this mobs in power.
It’s going to take shutdown.
As for what you do…yeah, you’re knuckle deep and perhaps one of the rare exceptions. Even civilians in those roles are kinda trapped. I’ve been close enough to people in those kinds of positions to understand that your hands are tied. Your chance to do something positive will come, though you already are.
The same will apply to a few crucial people; they won’t be able to move.
China is unlikely to want non-citizens fighting, Vietnam is staying neutral, Japan and Korea are going to be on the wrong side.
IG if I somehow end up in South America I’d do what I can.
Europe would probably deport me to get drafted by the guys they’re fighting like they do Russians.
I can’t think of any other places I might end up.
Bold to assume any of them want another running American.
I am in China right now. Do you think they’ll revoke my visa if Trump does some more rly dumb shit or something?