The scenery, the items, the vibe. All of these feel like they’re straight out of the game. The vaults and boxes of sugar bombs etc are absolutely perfect. Just because they didn’t get everything right doesn’t mean they didn’t get anything right. They stuff they did get right they knocked right out of the park.
I agree with you hardcore on the props and the vaults. The vaults especially are finally realized to a proper scale, and I absolutely adore the manufactured community they have going on!
But I wouldn’t call the way things look a little detail in a TV show. The way things look is like, at least half of the show. That’s why they hire prop designers and cinematographers.
When I say little details, I mean stuff like how they treated previously established locations and lore. In my opinion, the little details are the ones that, when they get wrong and someone points it out, everyone says “that doesn’t matter.” Which has been a large part of the discourse I’ve observed for this show.
For instance, the Great Khans. By the end of New Vegas, they are either genocided by Courier Six, forcibly relocated north by the NCR, genocided and wiped from history by Caesar, integrated into The Legion, willingly relocated to Wyoming and allied with The Followers, or dead in battle at Hoover Dam.
In the show, 15 years later, they’ve taken over Novac. Which is also on the side opposite of Black Mountain from where their claimed territory sat 15 years ago.
Not that borders can’t change, but I would like to see some of the history of that!
Here’s a big detail:
At the same time that Shady Sands fell in the show, the NCR controlled almost all of California, had Pre-War spec gun manufacturing, had a currency, healthcare, the largest military in the world, concrete manufacturing, working railroads, five STATES, over 700,000 citizens, and were expanding into Vegas where they all but destroyed the local BoS.
For all intents and purposes, we should be seeing mass amounts of refugees and new settlements. Plus, Shady Sands isn’t located in LA. There was almost no remnant of NCR society other than mention, a junk town, and a few refugees. The ruins of LA are kinda implied to be the Pre-War ruins, so I was just kinda wondering where the evidence of the modern nation in that area from 15 years ago was.
Could they explain all this away? Probably. But they haven’t so far… and I’m getting worried that they think the regional history isn’t important for a series with major themes of humans repeating history.
I could continue to rant and rave, but I’m not here to oppose you on the things you like about the show. If you enjoy the show, I’m happy for you! It does capture the feel of the Bethesda Fallout games pretty darn well, and I’ve enjoyed Lucy and Cooper’s plotlines thus far.
But as a fan of and nerd for (obviously) the story they told in the West Coast up to that point, it’s hard for me to enjoy the show, as they seem to just be ignoring a lot of the history to present the world in a way that feels more similar to the characterization of the world and factions in the East Coast.
The scenery, the items, the vibe. All of these feel like they’re straight out of the game. The vaults and boxes of sugar bombs etc are absolutely perfect. Just because they didn’t get everything right doesn’t mean they didn’t get anything right. They stuff they did get right they knocked right out of the park.
Hey, I never said they didn’t get anything right!
I agree with you hardcore on the props and the vaults. The vaults especially are finally realized to a proper scale, and I absolutely adore the manufactured community they have going on!
But I wouldn’t call the way things look a little detail in a TV show. The way things look is like, at least half of the show. That’s why they hire prop designers and cinematographers.
When I say little details, I mean stuff like how they treated previously established locations and lore. In my opinion, the little details are the ones that, when they get wrong and someone points it out, everyone says “that doesn’t matter.” Which has been a large part of the discourse I’ve observed for this show.
For instance, the Great Khans. By the end of New Vegas, they are either genocided by Courier Six, forcibly relocated north by the NCR, genocided and wiped from history by Caesar, integrated into The Legion, willingly relocated to Wyoming and allied with The Followers, or dead in battle at Hoover Dam.
In the show, 15 years later, they’ve taken over Novac. Which is also on the side opposite of Black Mountain from where their claimed territory sat 15 years ago.
Not that borders can’t change, but I would like to see some of the history of that!
Here’s a big detail:
At the same time that Shady Sands fell in the show, the NCR controlled almost all of California, had Pre-War spec gun manufacturing, had a currency, healthcare, the largest military in the world, concrete manufacturing, working railroads, five STATES, over 700,000 citizens, and were expanding into Vegas where they all but destroyed the local BoS.
For all intents and purposes, we should be seeing mass amounts of refugees and new settlements. Plus, Shady Sands isn’t located in LA. There was almost no remnant of NCR society other than mention, a junk town, and a few refugees. The ruins of LA are kinda implied to be the Pre-War ruins, so I was just kinda wondering where the evidence of the modern nation in that area from 15 years ago was.
Could they explain all this away? Probably. But they haven’t so far… and I’m getting worried that they think the regional history isn’t important for a series with major themes of humans repeating history.
I could continue to rant and rave, but I’m not here to oppose you on the things you like about the show. If you enjoy the show, I’m happy for you! It does capture the feel of the Bethesda Fallout games pretty darn well, and I’ve enjoyed Lucy and Cooper’s plotlines thus far.
But as a fan of and nerd for (obviously) the story they told in the West Coast up to that point, it’s hard for me to enjoy the show, as they seem to just be ignoring a lot of the history to present the world in a way that feels more similar to the characterization of the world and factions in the East Coast.