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Federal agents briefly detained our reporter at the scene, who says he was tackled to the ground and had a gun put in his face.
You don’t have to watch the videos.
You’re going to watch a man getting killed. That’s not good for your mental health. You can just take a pass here and not watch. Your watching the video is probably not going to help in any way, and it might hurt you. So, just think about your own needs before you traumatize yourself for no reason.
No, we NEED to be traumatized by this. We need to feel the visceral outrage that it takes to absolutely demand justice, OR ELSE! and mean it.
If you want to get traumatized, you do you.
I wouldn’t push your own idea of personal trauma onto others. Probs not healthy for anyone
I watched the video and yes it traumatized me. If you have personal trauma with situations that include police brutality and/or gun violence the video might retraumatize you. That having said, it’s a reality. We cannot deny this is happening and you better face the ugly reality we live in. However: this wasn’t the first incident and it won’t be the last. Do yourself and your sensible soul a favor and don’t watch all of this. A completely numbed down or traumatized countermovement doesn’t serve anybody.
There are more than 2 options. You don’t have to either a) “watch the video(s)” or b) “hide from reality”. There are also options like “don’t watch the video but accept that the millions / billions of people who have watched it have described it accurately.”
It’s a fair warning. But it also shows that there was no restraint. They murdered him. There was no struggle. He was just letting a woman go free. There was no threat on ICE. We all see it.
But a fair warning for those who haven’t seen something like that before.
Yes, and I got that information from you, without having to watch the video myself.
Correct. But I could be full of shit.
It’s also possible that you saw doctored footage. It’s possible that you’re mentally disturbed and don’t realize it and that what you think you saw isn’t actually what your eyes told you they were seeing. You could be a figment of my imagination. You could be an LLM bot. I could be an LLM bot. You could be trapped in the matrix.
Lots of things are possible. Most things are improbable. You gain essentially nothing by watching a snuff film for yourself to agree with the millions of other people who have also all watched it and all agree that they saw what they saw.
And unicorns might shit Lucky Charms. You only KNOW if you witness it yourself and form an opinion on your own.
Yes, so don’t rely on watching videos. The only way you know for sure is if you get shot yourself. Anybody claiming that you need to watch the video to truly understand what happened is deluded.
Are you trying to be difficult? I wouldn’t buy anything from you if you have this attitude.
Good thing I’m not selling anything.
Instead I’m making a point that people who say that hearing what happened isn’t sufficient, but watching a video somehow is.
Interesting take on personal trauma. What’s “good”, “bad”, or even “neutral” for mental health is very individualistic. A warning is warranted, but I’d be wary of telling people it’s “not good” to watch it. Maybe not for you, but you are you’re own person
Plenty of adults here who can make that call themselves (proper warning is always welcomed/needed)
Personally, I don’t choose the route of burying my head in the sand so I can savor blissful ignorance. I watch people die regularly IRL and am comfortable with the notion… but what’s wrong is wrong and sometimes people need to understand the reality. If they ain’t up to it, than a proper NSFL warning is good enough to warn them
People ain’t all children, and I respect what you’re trying to say… but if I got executed like that man; I’d want everyone (who was able) to see it for themselves. Especially in an age where false narratives and soft details are the norm
I prefer to see the horror with my own eyes and make my own judgements. I’ve accidentally seen far too much as is, and it only gave me strength after healing
A warning’s good enough, no need to patronize
Don’t look away, thats what they want, its also a sleight to the life of this man to not bear witness.
Watch, be enraged, then engage.
It will hurt your metal health way more to not watch and keep pretending everything is ok.
Don’t look directly into the trauma-causing footage. That’s what they want. It’s no slight to someone’s life not to personally watch them die. What matters isn’t that you personally watch their death from as many angles as you can. What matters is that you tell the truth about what happened. You can do that without obsessing over watching someone die. In fact, if you think that watching someone die is the important thing, you’re dishonouring them by focusing on the wrong thing.
Everyone should watch the video. Ignorance is not, in fact, bliss. That man was murdered by our government because he dared to protect his fellow citizens. No one can appreciate how egregious that killing was until they see it in living color.
Hiding from the truth because the truth is hard, is no way to live. We should all know what it happening. It will effect us all sooner than we think.
It’s not ignorance to spare yourself the trauma of watching someone die. You can know what happened without having to watch it yourself.
“I don’t want, and shouldn’t have, to do/see something difficult, because of the negative implications it may have on me personally.” I think that logic is bunk.
It is cover for avoiding the hard realities of life and the world around us. It is cover be being a coward. We should confront the difficult moments, not hide from them because they will make us feel complicated emotions that we will need to process. That attitude is exactly how we ended up here a country and it should be called out for what it is - fear and weakness. Now is not a time for either, unless we want this situation to get worse.
You don’t need to personally witness all the brutalities of life to stay informed. Do you watch all the Internet’s child porn just to be aware it’s out there, and to suffer the consequences of that? Or is it only violence porn that you think is essential viewing?
I mean in this case there is a benefit to seeing exactly what happened and how it happened to confidently shield yourself from propaganda. The video isn’t graphic per say (no blood or gore), and a single viewing instantly demolishes the fox news narrative
Now like the charlie kirk video is senseless, and I 100% agree with you there, no point to viewing it if you don’t want to.
Why?
Unless you were an idiot who actually believed the lies the Trump admin tells, your shield is already up and active. If the Trump admin said that the sky was blue, I’d assume it was night. That was true months ago, nothing they’ve done or said recently has changed it.
There’s no prize for being viewer number 1,000,000,000 of the death. You’re not going to spot something that the previous 999,999,999 people all missed. You’re not going to discover that the vast majority of those nearly 1 billion other viewers were lying and it was actually Trump telling the truth. All you’re going to do is watch someone die, and discover that what everybody other than Trump toadies said is correct.
Can Tetris help?
Allegedly. Just play it in your head
Did you personally watch the video before coming to that assessment?
Of course not, I’m not going to traumatize myself unnecessarily.
Truly incredible that you’re proud of your ignorance, and blindly sharing your opinions about how people should be acting more moderately: https://lemmy.world/post/42098476/21740923
You’re an embarrassment to yourself.
Not wanting to traumatize myself doesn’t make me ignorant.
Thinking that the only way you can be informed is by traumatizing yourself is the truly ignorant position.
You have every right not to watch the video. But opining about other people’s reaction to the video without watching it is unacceptable.
Take your safe-space mindset and opinions about media you haven’t consumed back to Tumblr, please.
Thinking that other people might be traumatized by watching someone get murdered is unacceptable? Walk me through your thinking here…
I actually think it does. Police has been murdering people in US since forever and the only way to realize how bad it is is to actually watch the footage. Reading about it does not paint the whole picture. Seeing how Americans are reacting to the ICE killings makes me think most Americans are ignorant of the police violence in their country. They know police kills people but don’t realize cold blooded executions by law enforcement like that happen every day. They pretend it doesn’t happen and only react when specially extreme case forces them to watch to footage (like in George Floyd case).
You’re wrong.
Really? That’s the only way?
Neither does watching a video. The only way to get the whole picture is to go out and get killed yourself. In those seconds while you’re dying you’ll truly understand.
See how stupid that is?
Did you see George Floyd death footage?
Have you watched every execution of every prisoner sentenced to capital punishment? Have you tried to book a seat to watch the execution in person? Have you sourced out footage from the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, in order to watch people die? Have you requested the body cam footage of every shooting involving a police officer? Do you seek out snuff films? Do you go to hospital emergency rooms to see if you can see someone dying? Do you hang out near bridges in the hope of watching someone jump to their deaths?
Who would? But it’s real and in our face. Learning how to process is healthy, avoidance is not
You don’t need to “learn to process” to know the truth. You don’t have to personally witness every horrible thing that’s happening.
Knowing and understanding are not equal, just as instruction and guidance aren’t. Processing knowledge helps to bring understanding my friend. I’m not saying you’re wrong; I’m saying not everyone does it like you, and that’s ok
Maybe you process faster; maybe you’re skimming the details to save personal harm. Maybe the way you do things isn’t a hard truth, but samely, doesn’t make your recommendations invalid. I just would personally change my wording from a place of “don’t do it”, to a place of “I wouldn’t, but that’s me”. Otherwise you risk depriving the wisdom of life from others, due to your own personal fears
I didn’t say “Don’t do it”. I said “You don’t have to watch the videos.”.