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    I have no words. I am literally speechless at what is currently happening in the US. I have to force myself to have words and they are all a mixture of vengeance and justice. Like… holly fuck.

    There is still a long way to go. A long way to go. But after all this is said and done, if there is an after, I hope you never forget these pieces of shit. I hope you force whomever comes next to hand you these people. They do not deserve jail, they deserve justice as given from the community. They are evil behind comprehension. Seems like you cannot give an inch to the right, as they will let their evilness take over and go after everyone, mercilessly.

    I hope there is good work being done on identifying and preserving whoever these evil pieces of shit, motherfuckers, morons, idiots, pedophiles, are. And when this is all done, you fucking drive all of them out of society. You bully them as long and as hard as possible.

    Pieces of shit motherfuckers.

    To my American brothers, I am truly sorry for what is happening. I don’t know the right thing to say. I want to motivate you to do what needs to be done, but at the same time, I am fully aware that it is hard.

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    They fucking mag dumped after the victim is clearly dead. These fucking fascists are untrained racist cowards. Every fucking ICE agent deserves to be imprisoned.

    If you’re not screaming to destroy ICE I don’t want to hear your fucking opinion.

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    This makes me ill. What the fuck is happening and do we stop it. Any resistance to these jack boot thugs is met with murder. I just don’t even know what to think anymore

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    Get these fucking monsters off our streets. Abolish ICE! Impeach the fucking president! Anyone who goes along with this needs be locked the fuck up.

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    You don’t have to watch the videos.

    You’re going to watch a man getting killed. That’s not good for your mental health. You can just take a pass here and not watch. Your watching the video is probably not going to help in any way, and it might hurt you. So, just think about your own needs before you traumatize yourself for no reason.

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      No, we NEED to be traumatized by this. We need to feel the visceral outrage that it takes to absolutely demand justice, OR ELSE! and mean it.

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      It’s a fair warning. But it also shows that there was no restraint. They murdered him. There was no struggle. He was just letting a woman go free. There was no threat on ICE. We all see it.

      But a fair warning for those who haven’t seen something like that before.

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        Yes, and I got that information from you, without having to watch the video myself.

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            It’s also possible that you saw doctored footage. It’s possible that you’re mentally disturbed and don’t realize it and that what you think you saw isn’t actually what your eyes told you they were seeing. You could be a figment of my imagination. You could be an LLM bot. I could be an LLM bot. You could be trapped in the matrix.

            Lots of things are possible. Most things are improbable. You gain essentially nothing by watching a snuff film for yourself to agree with the millions of other people who have also all watched it and all agree that they saw what they saw.

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      Interesting take on personal trauma. What’s “good”, “bad”, or even “neutral” for mental health is very individualistic. A warning is warranted, but I’d be wary of telling people it’s “not good” to watch it. Maybe not for you, but you are you’re own person

      Plenty of adults here who can make that call themselves (proper warning is always welcomed/needed)

      Personally, I don’t choose the route of burying my head in the sand so I can savor blissful ignorance. I watch people die regularly IRL and am comfortable with the notion… but what’s wrong is wrong and sometimes people need to understand the reality. If they ain’t up to it, than a proper NSFL warning is good enough to warn them

      People ain’t all children, and I respect what you’re trying to say… but if I got executed like that man; I’d want everyone (who was able) to see it for themselves. Especially in an age where false narratives and soft details are the norm

      I prefer to see the horror with my own eyes and make my own judgements. I’ve accidentally seen far too much as is, and it only gave me strength after healing

      A warning’s good enough, no need to patronize

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      Don’t look away, thats what they want, its also a sleight to the life of this man to not bear witness.

      Watch, be enraged, then engage.

      It will hurt your metal health way more to not watch and keep pretending everything is ok.

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        Don’t look directly into the trauma-causing footage. That’s what they want. It’s no slight to someone’s life not to personally watch them die. What matters isn’t that you personally watch their death from as many angles as you can. What matters is that you tell the truth about what happened. You can do that without obsessing over watching someone die. In fact, if you think that watching someone die is the important thing, you’re dishonouring them by focusing on the wrong thing.

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      Everyone should watch the video. Ignorance is not, in fact, bliss. That man was murdered by our government because he dared to protect his fellow citizens. No one can appreciate how egregious that killing was until they see it in living color.

      Hiding from the truth because the truth is hard, is no way to live. We should all know what it happening. It will effect us all sooner than we think.

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        It’s not ignorance to spare yourself the trauma of watching someone die. You can know what happened without having to watch it yourself.

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          “I don’t want, and shouldn’t have, to do/see something difficult, because of the negative implications it may have on me personally.” I think that logic is bunk.

          It is cover for avoiding the hard realities of life and the world around us. It is cover be being a coward. We should confront the difficult moments, not hide from them because they will make us feel complicated emotions that we will need to process. That attitude is exactly how we ended up here a country and it should be called out for what it is - fear and weakness. Now is not a time for either, unless we want this situation to get worse.

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            You don’t need to personally witness all the brutalities of life to stay informed. Do you watch all the Internet’s child porn just to be aware it’s out there, and to suffer the consequences of that? Or is it only violence porn that you think is essential viewing?

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              I mean in this case there is a benefit to seeing exactly what happened and how it happened to confidently shield yourself from propaganda. The video isn’t graphic per say (no blood or gore), and a single viewing instantly demolishes the fox news narrative

              Now like the charlie kirk video is senseless, and I 100% agree with you there, no point to viewing it if you don’t want to.

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                I mean in this case there is a benefit to seeing exactly what happened

                Why?

                to confidently shield yourself from propaganda

                Unless you were an idiot who actually believed the lies the Trump admin tells, your shield is already up and active. If the Trump admin said that the sky was blue, I’d assume it was night. That was true months ago, nothing they’ve done or said recently has changed it.

                There’s no prize for being viewer number 1,000,000,000 of the death. You’re not going to spot something that the previous 999,999,999 people all missed. You’re not going to discover that the vast majority of those nearly 1 billion other viewers were lying and it was actually Trump telling the truth. All you’re going to do is watch someone die, and discover that what everybody other than Trump toadies said is correct.

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            Not wanting to traumatize myself doesn’t make me ignorant.

            Thinking that the only way you can be informed is by traumatizing yourself is the truly ignorant position.

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              You have every right not to watch the video. But opining about other people’s reaction to the video without watching it is unacceptable.

              Take your safe-space mindset and opinions about media you haven’t consumed back to Tumblr, please.

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                But opining about other people’s reaction to the video without watching it is unacceptable.

                Thinking that other people might be traumatized by watching someone get murdered is unacceptable? Walk me through your thinking here…

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              Not wanting to traumatize myself doesn’t make me ignorant.

              I actually think it does. Police has been murdering people in US since forever and the only way to realize how bad it is is to actually watch the footage. Reading about it does not paint the whole picture. Seeing how Americans are reacting to the ICE killings makes me think most Americans are ignorant of the police violence in their country. They know police kills people but don’t realize cold blooded executions by law enforcement like that happen every day. They pretend it doesn’t happen and only react when specially extreme case forces them to watch to footage (like in George Floyd case).

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                I actually think it does.

                You’re wrong.

                the only way to realize how bad it is is to actually watch the footage

                Really? That’s the only way?

                Reading about it does not paint the whole picture

                Neither does watching a video. The only way to get the whole picture is to go out and get killed yourself. In those seconds while you’re dying you’ll truly understand.

                See how stupid that is?

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          Who would? But it’s real and in our face. Learning how to process is healthy, avoidance is not

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            You don’t need to “learn to process” to know the truth. You don’t have to personally witness every horrible thing that’s happening.

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              Knowing and understanding are not equal, just as instruction and guidance aren’t. Processing knowledge helps to bring understanding my friend. I’m not saying you’re wrong; I’m saying not everyone does it like you, and that’s ok

              Maybe you process faster; maybe you’re skimming the details to save personal harm. Maybe the way you do things isn’t a hard truth, but samely, doesn’t make your recommendations invalid. I just would personally change my wording from a place of “don’t do it”, to a place of “I wouldn’t, but that’s me”. Otherwise you risk depriving the wisdom of life from others, due to your own personal fears

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      Please stop with this rhetoric. A well trained death squad will not stop this

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      The problem isn’t training; its intent. Their goal is to kill minorities and Democrats

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      They are also doing it because they know they are deeply unpopular with the non-fascist public and risk being overrun by a crowd if they only have 2-3 thugs on it. Need enough people on a perimeter explicitly threatening to gun people down like they did with Floyd.

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    Lots of great videos on YouTube of Russian soldiers getting destroyed by Ukrainian drones… If you’re into that sort of thing.

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    In case gift links don’t work for anyone for whatever reason,

    Archive for ST - https://archive.ph/NLoQx

    Archive for BMN - https://web.archive.org/web/20260124160643/https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/breaking-federal-agent-shoots-man-in-south-minneapolis

    I wasn’t able to find any snapshots of that removed text, but it seems super plausible because they apparently had a reporter who happened to be on the scene before and when things went down

    A Bring Me The News reporter who was near the scene said an agent opened fire at a man outside Glam Doll Donuts at Nicollet Avenue and 26th Street at around 9 a.m.

    Immediately after our reporter approached the scene, an agent was heard yelling for help and scissors to open the victim’s shirt. Agents told our reporter that they had immediately called 911 for assistance.

    I’m guessing they told him that at the barrel of a gun, interesting that the optics of them refusing that doctor who wanted to do lifesaving care on Renee apparently got to them

    But if this detail is confirmed I can’t imagine how pissed off the cities are about to be

    New video uploaded to Reddit shows several federal agents struggling with a man outside Glam Doll, during which a shot is fired, followed by multiple more shots fired at the man as he lay on the ground. [Ital added]

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      The first shot instantly made the victim go limp. You can’t see most of his body, but arms and legs go limp immediately.

      All the agents jump away, and multiple immediately fire multiple times each into the body anyways

      They were fine with medical, because they were confident he was already dead at that point.

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        If they think that a lack of justification is going to stop the fascists, they’ve got another think coming. Even if the response is completely non-violent, the fascists will just get tired of waiting and invent their own excuses, like they always do.

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          It won’t stop them, but will make it easier to rally the broader public against the Nazis. Having more people siding against them is important

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            Yeah, I feel like they’re going to go martial law in October no matter what, but in the meantime violence from protesters is just going to a) fracture the anti fascist coalition b) provoke retaliation from ICE that will hit bystanders

            Things may get worse no matter what but violence is likely to make them worse

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          I can see this incompetent fuckwit administration telling Drinky Pete to send in the paratroopers because it would “look cool”.

          Still, though. Harris didn’t support the working classes.

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    This just in: country of allegedly normal human people with the most lax gunlaws somehow can’t defend itself against armed paramilitary Nazis. Murder on the street is not enough reason to escalate folks, probably best to wait a bit longer. Tune in tomorrow, for more fascist horrors!

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      Need to be sure the military, or a substantial chunk of it, wouldn’t just join ICE in killing civilians as the next step in escalation.

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        Either way, Americans might as well get to the next step on this journey. If the military is not on their side, whatever is happening now doesn’t matter anyways. If they are, this abuse is cut short instead of dragging on, to who knows what end. Heck, it might lead to keeping this stain on the USA’s history from getting any darker.

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          “Americans should hurry up and all die already” fuck off with that. Networks take time to build, alignments shift. You want us to go all-in before the flop but we can still afford to see a few hands.

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    How SAD! Thoughts and Prayers!

    -Democrats who Voted to CONTINUE Funding the Organization MURDERING AMERICANS IN THE STREETS!