• Whostosay@sh.itjust.works
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      23 hours ago

      This is very confusing. How should we clear it up?

      Here’s an idea, anyone claiming or acting like law enforcement in your neighborhood that has no badge, no warrant, no visible face, they get gunned down in the fucking street, no hesitation nor questions asked.

      How’s that for clarification?

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        They have been stocking up on heavy military surplus materials for years and are incredibly horny to get to use it. These people are extremely excited about the prospect of civil war. They are not afraid of people fighting back, they are drooling their idiot faces off daydreaming about it.

        So yeah, maybe try to think up a more efficient form of resistance, though I sympathize with the sentiment.

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          Even if thats what the top wants, it’s not reflected in the untrained cowards on the streets. They were caught on video fleeing from their own gunfire.

          They will escalate, whether we act or not. That’s how we got here.

          Act accordingly.

          Also, asymmetric warfare works wonders. Ask any country that has had to fight the US in the last four decades and sustained those wars for decades.

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            Oh yes, because the countries the US invaded for natural resources have all been thrilled to have been murdered by american soldiers. They should really be grateful for the opportunity granted to them by the US to win a good war.

            War is shit. Find a better solution.

            Of course, I’m not saying you shouldn’t prepare for the worst, but don’t fucking escalate.

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              21 hours ago

              When did I say any of that?

              Do you think those countries chose to be invaded? Did they escalate.

              Help me find a better solution, I’m all ears.

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                I’m just saying that the fact that America tends to lose its wars is very meager comfort for those on the receiving end of them. You can’t really win a war as a civilian.

                Protests and strikes are working. Organize locally in a positive and constructive manner (maybe get active in a union? Do you still have those over there?), build community and dedicate time and effort to that. Be the opposite of the fascists, don’t just echo their ideas of violence.

                It might not feel so badass, but you’ll do more good as a living organizer than as a dead agitator.

                If you want to die a martyr, Luigi showed that there’s a better way than to go in guns blazing towards low-level losers working as fascist henchmen. Ultimately the awful people in ICE and US Border Patrol are also victims of this broken system, they’re just too stupid to have figured it out.

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                  It might not feel so badass, but you’ll do more good as a living organizer than as a dead agitator.

                  How tone-deaf do you believe this is?

                  Two “agitators” have been executed in the street, nevermind the thousands kidnapped and disappeared by this regime. The war is here already. I’m not advocating starting violence, I’m advocating ending it.

                  And when you say the protests and strikes are working, what does that mean exactly? How has it worked? Because again, people are still being disappeared and more people are being executed in the streets. Make it make sense.

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        An important distinction nevertheless. There are a lot of calls to abolish ICE, not so many to abolish the US Border Patrol.

        If I were American I’d at least like to keep track of who is executing my fellow citizens in the streets. But maybe I’m just a pedant.

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    Most of the videos are to grainy for me to tell what happened to his gun. What is clear is he had a phone in one hand and the other was empty when he was first attacked. That and that they proceeded to shoot him six times when he was aready slumped unmoving bleeding out on the ground.

    Though given the New York Times is saying he was shot after the gun was taken without any particular weasle words I’m inclined to think they shot him without provocation.

    Kristy Noem could descalate things a lot if she stopped trasparently lying.

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      The agent that shot him clearly saw that the gun was already taken away and the victim didn’t have it. I will post the proof shortly

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      it was plain as day, his legal carry was divested from his person by an agent 2 seconds before he was shot, and wile still sat on by multiple other agents