• Whostosay@sh.itjust.works
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      24 hours ago

      This is very confusing. How should we clear it up?

      Here’s an idea, anyone claiming or acting like law enforcement in your neighborhood that has no badge, no warrant, no visible face, they get gunned down in the fucking street, no hesitation nor questions asked.

      How’s that for clarification?

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        23 hours ago

        They have been stocking up on heavy military surplus materials for years and are incredibly horny to get to use it. These people are extremely excited about the prospect of civil war. They are not afraid of people fighting back, they are drooling their idiot faces off daydreaming about it.

        So yeah, maybe try to think up a more efficient form of resistance, though I sympathize with the sentiment.

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          Even if thats what the top wants, it’s not reflected in the untrained cowards on the streets. They were caught on video fleeing from their own gunfire.

          They will escalate, whether we act or not. That’s how we got here.

          Act accordingly.

          Also, asymmetric warfare works wonders. Ask any country that has had to fight the US in the last four decades and sustained those wars for decades.

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            22 hours ago

            Oh yes, because the countries the US invaded for natural resources have all been thrilled to have been murdered by american soldiers. They should really be grateful for the opportunity granted to them by the US to win a good war.

            War is shit. Find a better solution.

            Of course, I’m not saying you shouldn’t prepare for the worst, but don’t fucking escalate.

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              22 hours ago

              When did I say any of that?

              Do you think those countries chose to be invaded? Did they escalate.

              Help me find a better solution, I’m all ears.

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                I’m just saying that the fact that America tends to lose its wars is very meager comfort for those on the receiving end of them. You can’t really win a war as a civilian.

                Protests and strikes are working. Organize locally in a positive and constructive manner (maybe get active in a union? Do you still have those over there?), build community and dedicate time and effort to that. Be the opposite of the fascists, don’t just echo their ideas of violence.

                It might not feel so badass, but you’ll do more good as a living organizer than as a dead agitator.

                If you want to die a martyr, Luigi showed that there’s a better way than to go in guns blazing towards low-level losers working as fascist henchmen. Ultimately the awful people in ICE and US Border Patrol are also victims of this broken system, they’re just too stupid to have figured it out.

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                  22 hours ago

                  It might not feel so badass, but you’ll do more good as a living organizer than as a dead agitator.

                  How tone-deaf do you believe this is?

                  Two “agitators” have been executed in the street, nevermind the thousands kidnapped and disappeared by this regime. The war is here already. I’m not advocating starting violence, I’m advocating ending it.

                  And when you say the protests and strikes are working, what does that mean exactly? How has it worked? Because again, people are still being disappeared and more people are being executed in the streets. Make it make sense.

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                    Going out guns blazing will be seen as an escalation, even if that’s what they’re doing already. That’s just the reality of the situation. Hell, they’re currently trying to justify their killings with arguments such as “he held a phone” and “her foot fell on the gas after she died”, and parts of Trump’s base are nevertheless buying it. If anyone actually came at them with weapons they would be having a blast.

                    You don’t end violence with violence against footsoldiers.

                    Pressure against the regime works. Trump and Vance are not afraid of ICE agents getting killed, they would be overly excited about it. They are not, however, excited to see the country rise in pritest against their fascist takeover.

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        An important distinction nevertheless. There are a lot of calls to abolish ICE, not so many to abolish the US Border Patrol.

        If I were American I’d at least like to keep track of who is executing my fellow citizens in the streets. But maybe I’m just a pedant.