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- iran@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- iran@lemmy.ml
As many as 30,000 people could have been killed in the streets of Iran on Jan. 8 and 9 alone, two senior officials of the country’s Ministry of Health told TIME—indicating a dramatic surge in the death toll.
So many people were slaughtered by Iranian security services on that Thursday and Friday, it overwhelmed the state’s capacity to dispose of the dead. Stocks of body bags were exhausted, the officials said, and eighteen-wheel semi-trailers replaced ambulances.
The government’s internal count of the dead, not previously revealed, far surpasses the toll of 3,117 announced on Jan. 21 by regime hardliners who report directly to Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. (Ministries report to the elected President.) The 30,000 figure is also far beyond tallies being compiled by activists methodically assigning names to the dead. As of Saturday, the U.S.-based Human Rights Activists News Agency said it had confirmed 5,459 deaths and is investigating 17,031 more.
That is 3x the high end of the estimates even in the NYTimes which is Israel’s fairy godmother and bitch and as such pumping their bullshit, which includes inflaming protests and inflating numbers like this.
Whomever wrote this article is a tool. Working to build up more cause for war, and playing the left into supporting it under the auspices of throwing off a regime, when they are in the middle of a war with Israel and the US that they are powerless to hit back effectively in. They are still in rally around the flag, you dumbshits think a protest is going to overthrow them now?
The ones playing you know better, they know they will get protesters killed right now, to justify bombing them again, killing leadership, the aftermath of which would give them neverending manufacturies for more strikes given their dishonesty and media’s craven acquiescance.
The Iranian government is a repressive band of authoritarians, and to claim so isn’t American propaganda or inflated bullshit. Iranians have repeatedly stood up against them because they’re being oppressed as they had been under the shah. Now, the exact number is infinitely hard to pinpoint because of limited information trickling out of the country like @perestroika@slrpnk.net said, but that’s a separate issue. The Iranian authorities themselves admit to a few thousand, and it’s not far-fetched that they underestimate the number.
Your numbers suggest inflated bullshit. More than suggest, what did you say, you assumed tens of thousands of eye injuries based on an account of hundreds in one place. In a country in effect still at war with Israel and the US.
You may want to check if you’re replying to the right person.
I remind of a news article back then, telling of an eye doctor in one hospital counting 400 gunshot eye injuries.
Back when it was happening, I extrapolated that to 2000 gunshot eye injuries per city, and wondered how many cities to multiply the result by. In the end, I gave up with logic and guessed 36 000 gunshot eye injuries per Iran. And that’s strictly only gunshot eye injuries. Not neck, chest, stomach, arm or leg injuries.
In situations were the flow of information is impaired - like by an internet blackout, which is still in force - information about the scale of events trickles out.
I remind of the earthquake in Turkey a few years ago. At first, 50 dead were reported. As hours and days passed, communications were restored and victims counted, it became… over 50 000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Turkey–Syria_earthquakes
This is how infromation arrives.
As for the rest of your post - it is not for me, so I won’t adress it.
I am sorry, so you took the clearly false numbers at face value and ran with them? 400 eye injuries, so says the worst people in the world that ultimately fed you that information?
i don’t think you are very good at judging the reliability of sources frankly.
The Guardian is a bit better than you or me at this task.
Hundreds of gunshot eye injuries found in one Iranian hospital amid brutal crackdown on protests
Iran is a brutal theocracy that uses rape and murder as state policy to terrorize their citizens.
The government was shooting protesters in the eyes to mutilate them for life, for the “crime” of protesting.
They cut the internet so they could do it in the dark.
A journalist reporting on how many humans the Iranian government murdered isn’t being “a tool”.
And here you are wholeheartedly shilling for murder and tyranny.