• [object Object]@lemmy.world
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      As it happens, Russian cities saw huge sprawl during the USSR, though probably mostly starting in the sixties. As is usual, the pre-revolution city centre is twisty and cozy, while around it are radiating straight avenues for kilometres. So sorta the opposite of what the headline says.

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        Straight avenue is not necessarily a bad thing though, if they’re high-density, walkable, full of services and green spaces, and interconnected with public transit, as they were.

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      Eh, for all its faults Moscow has a fucking amazing metro+light rail system. All my friends who still live there aren’t even thinking about buying cars, because why would they?

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    “every opinion different than mine is stalinist!” said the chugs with their mouths full of mcnuggets and cheap beer.

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    Maybe tankies are the way they are because they live in some bastardized allegory of the cave where all they’ve ever learned about Stalin is from Duncan White, director of the Alliance of British Drivers.

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      The tankies I’ve known have almost all been middle-class contrarian twats. They often convert to the hard right when they get older, maybe because it increases their chances of actually being able to ruin people’s lives.

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            That’s actually disgusting, talking like that about a fucking socialist activist who spent his life making the lives of others better. The guy was fucking beat up by cops for organizing protests against the Vietnam war, and forbidden from teaching in universities afterwards. Have some fucking respect

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    Today you can walk to the shops.

    Tomorrow you’re in a Siberian gulag.

    Slippery fucking slope.

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      It’s horrible. I’ve had to give up my beloved 90-minute commute, and if I want something from a shop, I have to got off my lazy arse and spend a couple of minutes walking over there, instead of wasting 20 minutes each way driving to some nightmarish big-box retail hellhole in the outskirts of the city.

      And let’s not even talk about the clean air and nearly complete absence of road-raging premature-ejaculator drivers speeding along the city streets.

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        You seem to have skipped over the part where there’s no job at all without that commute

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    Living in a 15-minute city, it’s almost as nice as the previously screeched-about “Shari’a no-go zones” in Paris. I was in one of those when that hysteria started, drinking an excellent bottle of wine with a friend of mine and a charming French-Algerian couple.

    And if my quiet little city’s modest efforts at pedestrianisation are Stalinist, then I’ve misunderstood Stalinism and maybe it’s not so bad after all (except the purges, the Molotove-Ribbentripp pact and the Holodomor).

    Note for the paranoid: you can easily be tracked if you drive a car, though in-car telemetry and ANPR cameras. But you’re nearly invisible to the authorities if you’re a pedestrian or a cyclist.

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      the Molotove-Ribbentripp pact

      Here’s a fun mostly-unknown fact about this one: the pact(s) included military technology transfers, with one result being that advanced anti-aircraft guns earmarked for the battleship Bismarck were instead given to the USSR. Bismarck ended up being fatally crippled by British biplanes.

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      I’ve misunderstood Stalinism and maybe it’s not so bad after all (except the purges, the Molotove-Ribbentripp pact and the Holodomor).

      This is actually correct, Stalin did sign some awful stuff into law (although it’s not the examples you are giving: the worst things are the LGBT ban, restrictions on worker’s soviets, and NKVD “troika” trials), but also did some pretty solid stuff like industrializing the country, improving employment and poverty rates, and defeating nazis.

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    There’s a conspiracy theory that what 15 minute cities secretly means is that you’ll be confined in a sector of the city and unable to leave without a permit or something.

    Why anyone would think that, no idea!

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      Why anyone would think that, no idea!

      Because that’s what Republicans would do, obviously.

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      Or like, why do they think this couldn’t happen in a city with cars?

      They can just block the roads and cars are worthless.

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      I don’t think it makes any logical sense. It doesn’t need to, because that’s not the point.

      Repeat the buzzwords (15 minute cities, WEF, replacement theory, etc) on Facebook or Twitter and the lunatic followers/bots will magically appear to follow, like and subscribe you up the social media pages.

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      Authoritarians are poor at distinguising “is allowed to” from “is forced to.” This is also why they hate gay people-- they think that if someone else is allowed to be gay, that’ll mean that everyone will be compelled to.

      The reality is that they fear freedom. They like the taste of boot.

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        Yeah because in their dreams girls should be compelled to have sex with them, so it’s a kind of twisted but understandable logic I guess.

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        And why would a bunch of never-left-their-staters even care in the first place? They clearly don’t want freedom of movement

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      In car-centric American cities however, that would be impossible. You can’t just block the single street that leads out of the neighborhood!

      Oh, wait.

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    Yesterday I headed out from the apartment for errands. I walked a total of about 8 blocks. I completed:

    • A haircut
    • Shopping for some house items
    • Post office for mailing a letter and stamps
    • Stopped to listen to some live music in a market hall
    • Talked with a local community group about tech stuff
    • Visited a library
    • Hit up the bank ATM
    • Snagged a couple bags of groceries

    Total time: about 115 minutes

    I LOVE living in a walkable neighborhood. Fuck car-only life. If you want it, fine, but don’t demand that we all live in your apocalyptic transportation hellscape.

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      I could have done all thos trips in 40 minutes with my car, if we ignore the time in traffic, the time fueling it, the time waiting for oil changes, and the time spent earning the money to pay for the car, the gas, and the insurance.

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        Don’t forget all that energy you saved by not walking anywhere. You paid good money for those calories and you’re going to hold on to them for dear life.

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        You also left out finding parking and then walking through spectacularly scenic parking lots to and from each destination’s front door. With bigger malls/box stores you’d walk further than I did going around the block just having to cross the parking lot.

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            Jokes on you: the city I moved away from in the US added a parking garage to the historic register. If you weren’t so focused on waiting in a line of cars for the drive thru, you could be enjoying 10 stories of historically crumbling concrete!

            On my errands I was subjected to walking past atone churches from the pre 1800’s, going through a park, and going through a market hall from 1900. It was horrible. I didn’t even get to wait at any traffic lights for a Micro Vacation during my travels. Sad. Just sad.

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    Does this also come with universal health care, free education, 100% employment, and housing as a right? If not, it’s not very Stalinist.

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      This is the UK, so we do actually have the NHS which is free at point of use for all citizens, provided you can wait the wait times, free primary and secondary education and university that costs £10k per year, and council housing for those who can’t access housing in any other way. That’s three out of four, at least.

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    This is the Telegraph talking about Labour government plans. Of course they would present it like that.

    I personally think the better way is to make people realize themselves that not driving is the better option. Linking omnipresent cameras with driver databases to implement a vague system of fines administered by the councils does not instill me with enough confidence either. I see contested fines clogging up courtrooms (or whatever legal recourse there must be) for years.

    Raise parking fees, reduce parking spaces - at a relatively slow rate to keep predictable outrage local and small enough. Implement a system where every car purchase needs to be accompanied by a proof of parking like in Japan (owned driveway or rented spot). Invest in public transport and infrastructure for pedestrians and bicyclists. Tax breaks for infrastructure that’s missing (a supermarket, a clinic, a theater, etc.). That would make more sense to me than the threat of punishment through this somewhat Orwellian system.

    East Germany was an authoritarian state without rule of law. This can be true at the time as the fact that in most cities they created neighborhoods that come close to this 15-min ideal. Childcare, multi disiplinary medical “poly clinics,” and decent public transport. Sure, long lines at the grocery store and an 18 year waiting list to buy a shit car. But it strikes me as extremely dumb to ignore useful lessons from that out of cold war principle.