They clearly never been to Moscow, they would love it though, a car hellscape.
As it happens, Russian cities saw huge sprawl during the USSR, though probably mostly starting in the sixties. As is usual, the pre-revolution city centre is twisty and cozy, while around it are radiating straight avenues for kilometres. So sorta the opposite of what the headline says.
Straight avenue is not necessarily a bad thing though, if they’re high-density, walkable, full of services and green spaces, and interconnected with public transit, as they were.
Eh, for all its faults Moscow has a fucking amazing metro+light rail system. All my friends who still live there aren’t even thinking about buying cars, because why would they?
Fair enough. But also still plenty of avenues that look like highways
There’s even a whole video game series about it!
“every opinion different than mine is stalinist!” said the chugs with their mouths full of mcnuggets and cheap beer.
Don’t drag cheap beer into this!
Expensive beer is Stalinist
“Journalism opens the door to writing articles after a frontal lobotomy”
Maybe tankies are the way they are because they live in some bastardized allegory of the cave where all they’ve ever learned about Stalin is from Duncan White, director of the Alliance of British Drivers.
The tankies I’ve known have almost all been middle-class contrarian twats. They often convert to the hard right when they get older, maybe because it increases their chances of actually being able to ruin people’s lives.
Saying this two days after Michael Parenti’s death is really something
new gender neutral bathroom just opened 🥳
That’s actually disgusting, talking like that about a fucking socialist activist who spent his life making the lives of others better. The guy was fucking beat up by cops for organizing protests against the Vietnam war, and forbidden from teaching in universities afterwards. Have some fucking respect
I hope all nazbols burn in hell, as he’s currently doing right now. genocide deniers are only good as worm food
Today you can walk to the shops.
Tomorrow you’re in a Siberian gulag.
Slippery fucking slope.
Oh, look. The Torygraph.
Oh no, imagine life being convenient
It’s horrible. I’ve had to give up my beloved 90-minute commute, and if I want something from a shop, I have to got off my lazy arse and spend a couple of minutes walking over there, instead of wasting 20 minutes each way driving to some nightmarish big-box retail hellhole in the outskirts of the city.
And let’s not even talk about the clean air and nearly complete absence of road-raging premature-ejaculator drivers speeding along the city streets.
You seem to have skipped over the part where there’s no job at all without that commute
stalin era ussr did explore this concept, yeah.
Fuck the torygraph.
When they argue in bad faith, they’ll say anything and never waver from it to further their agenda.
Living in a 15-minute city, it’s almost as nice as the previously screeched-about “Shari’a no-go zones” in Paris. I was in one of those when that hysteria started, drinking an excellent bottle of wine with a friend of mine and a charming French-Algerian couple.
And if my quiet little city’s modest efforts at pedestrianisation are Stalinist, then I’ve misunderstood Stalinism and maybe it’s not so bad after all (except the purges, the Molotove-Ribbentripp pact and the Holodomor).
Note for the paranoid: you can easily be tracked if you drive a car, though in-car telemetry and ANPR cameras. But you’re nearly invisible to the authorities if you’re a pedestrian or a cyclist.
the Molotove-Ribbentripp pact
Here’s a fun mostly-unknown fact about this one: the pact(s) included military technology transfers, with one result being that advanced anti-aircraft guns earmarked for the battleship Bismarck were instead given to the USSR. Bismarck ended up being fatally crippled by British biplanes.
I’ve misunderstood Stalinism and maybe it’s not so bad after all (except the purges, the Molotove-Ribbentripp pact and the Holodomor).
This is actually correct, Stalin did sign some awful stuff into law (although it’s not the examples you are giving: the worst things are the LGBT ban, restrictions on worker’s soviets, and NKVD “troika” trials), but also did some pretty solid stuff like industrializing the country, improving employment and poverty rates, and defeating nazis.
There’s a conspiracy theory that what 15 minute cities secretly means is that you’ll be confined in a sector of the city and unable to leave without a permit or something.
Why anyone would think that, no idea!
Why anyone would think that, no idea!
Because that’s what Republicans would do, obviously.
Or like, why do they think this couldn’t happen in a city with cars?
They can just block the roads and cars are worthless.
I don’t think it makes any logical sense. It doesn’t need to, because that’s not the point.
Repeat the buzzwords (15 minute cities, WEF, replacement theory, etc) on Facebook or Twitter and the lunatic followers/bots will magically appear to follow, like and subscribe you up the social media pages.
Possibly because that’s actually what the fascists want.
Authoritarians are poor at distinguising “is allowed to” from “is forced to.” This is also why they hate gay people-- they think that if someone else is allowed to be gay, that’ll mean that everyone will be compelled to.
The reality is that they fear freedom. They like the taste of boot.
Yeah because in their dreams girls should be compelled to have sex with them, so it’s a kind of twisted but understandable logic I guess.
And why would a bunch of never-left-their-staters even care in the first place? They clearly don’t want freedom of movement
In car-centric American cities however, that would be impossible. You can’t just block the single street that leads out of the neighborhood!
Oh, wait.
Yesterday I headed out from the apartment for errands. I walked a total of about 8 blocks. I completed:
- A haircut
- Shopping for some house items
- Post office for mailing a letter and stamps
- Stopped to listen to some live music in a market hall
- Talked with a local community group about tech stuff
- Visited a library
- Hit up the bank ATM
- Snagged a couple bags of groceries
Total time: about 115 minutes
I LOVE living in a walkable neighborhood. Fuck car-only life. If you want it, fine, but don’t demand that we all live in your apocalyptic transportation hellscape.
I could have done all thos trips in 40 minutes with my car, if we ignore the time in traffic, the time fueling it, the time waiting for oil changes, and the time spent earning the money to pay for the car, the gas, and the insurance.
Don’t forget all that energy you saved by not walking anywhere. You paid good money for those calories and you’re going to hold on to them for dear life.
I won’t lie, you had me at the first half.
You also left out finding parking and then walking through spectacularly scenic parking lots to and from each destination’s front door. With bigger malls/box stores you’d walk further than I did going around the block just having to cross the parking lot.
Parking? All of those stops were drive thrus
Drive-thru haircuts sounds pretty weird imo.
Link to where you get your haircut via drive through?
Jokes on you: the city I moved away from in the US added a parking garage to the historic register. If you weren’t so focused on waiting in a line of cars for the drive thru, you could be enjoying 10 stories of historically crumbling concrete!
On my errands I was subjected to walking past atone churches from the pre 1800’s, going through a park, and going through a market hall from 1900. It was horrible. I didn’t even get to wait at any traffic lights for a Micro Vacation during my travels. Sad. Just sad.
In Europe, 18th Century churches are new.
Yeah, though I’m also in Berlin so many were fully or partially rebuilt after the various wars. They’re old and new now. Still gorgeous. I love me a tall stone building!
Oh. Yeah, Berlin is definitely an exception…
Traffic restrictions will promote getting where the fuck you want to be on any sort of schedule
A true Orwellian dystopia
This is genuinely in bad faith. As far as I can tell, the “15 minute cities” are not some renaissance in urban development with dense housing and mixed-purpose residential and commercial spaces. It’s just slapping a steep fine on anybody who drives out of the neighborhood without bothering to check if they actually have access to an Aldi’s within their zone, much less where they might be employed. (Oh, don’t want to pay 38 pounds every day as a commute toll? Quit your office job and work at the corner store. We did it, we saved the environment!)
