- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
“These unprecedented tactics – which even the former top lawyer of the Department of Homeland Security in the first Trump administration has characterized as embarrassing, lawless and cruel – have now resulted in the fatal shootings of two U.S. citizens,” the Obamas said.
The Obamas accused the Trump administration of “escalating” the tension in Minneapolis by offering the public explanations of the shootings of Pretti and Renee Good “that aren’t informed by any serious investigation – and that appear to be directly contradicted by video evidence.”
What would you have us do?
I’ve been warning about this since before Trump won the election.
But to be honest IDK what to do at this point, except occupy white house and congress.
It seems more and more like either give Trump his way, or prepare for civil war. 😬
I hope your fellow Americans have better ideas. The time to act was before Trump had everything stacked on his side. But maybe he doesn’t have that quite yet. And some of the services will side with the people if they act now.
But apparently all the services are now ready to do Trumps bidding. And if true, that means that USA is already a dictatorship.
Yeah. Agreed. The time to act was when we had the option to vote against tyranny. But too many people felt it necessary to protest shit happening in a country they couldn’t have pointed to on a map months before, and the rest of the clowns felt that “good” was the mortal enemy of perfect. So much so that it seems they’re willing to repeat their mistakes in 2028.
Still, everyone wasn’t to believe there’s a way out of this- and no one wants to hear the truth. And yet- the truth is what drives everyone to do nothing about it.
I guess it’s better to just whine about everything while doing nothing as opposed to calling it out.
The truth is that if Trump wins, USA is a dictatorship, and Americans have in effect lost a lot of the rights and freedoms they used to take for granted.
I think the truth should make people want to fight for democracy and their rights. The longer people wait, the harder it gets. Because the administration is systematically turning all the agencies into fascist wagging tails of the administration.
News flash: trump won.
It looks like it, but he hasn’t quite won yet.
“shit happening” huh. You mean that all our candidates were supporting and facilitating a genocide of innocents. Have the stones to say it out loud instead of trivializing it. And you’re right about one thing, if the DNC keep running zionists then I plan to keep letting this place burn to the ground and toasting my marshmallows on the fires. And your 401k ,and posh house, and starbucks, and gay rights, your social security, your career, and civil rights and private schools can all immolate under republican leadership until you war crimes softies wise the eff up and grow a spine. I dont care if you and your friends dont like that or “blame” me. The ire of people who trivialize war crimes means less than nothing to me. And lots of people feel the way I do.
And there it is…. The gENOciDe excuse.
Why don’t you just say that you couldn’t be bothered to do the bare minimum to stand in the way of fascism than to make some bogus excuse so that you sound worldly and ideolistic?
Because we told you the genocide would still happen- and it did.
We told you even MORE people would die- and they did.
We told you ALL of this would happen- and it did.
And you have the fucking nerve to call out entitlements? It must be so nice to pawn other people’s lives to pay for your shitty little pout-n-protest.
Flatly saying NO to a genocide (or “gENOciDe” in your description) done with US taxpayer bought weapons is an “excuse” to you? And then you want to whine about your “entitlements”?
Wow. You sir, are selfish to the point of psychopathy. Let us know when you reconsider that. Until that point keep enjoying the fruits of the DNC being bought out by Israel. I imagine watching our “entitlements” burn to nothing will be motivating. Or maybe not, in which case I guess we let it all burn and rebuild after under a new regime. Either way the dems dont get my vote until they stop fellating whoever pays them. Heck of a system we have on that.
And your saying Harris was going to mean fewer deaths than trump is BS. Her actions dont indicate that at all. She has let Israel do whatever they wanted to whomever they wanted to whatever degree they wanted, and that wont change because her campaign is powered by their money. Its like you dont understand how the donor driven pay to play system in the US works. Did you notice that Harris was palling around with republicans and talking about praying and shooting her glock, and resisteing talking about any policy positions? But you think she was going to swing way progressive after the election, totally change her pattern and spontaneously do the right thing after the election. It’s a fiction that’d make a hell of a movie. Of course she’d just keep doing exactly what she’s doing now. You centrists always like to pretend toward vague progressivism during elections and then afterwards you talk about how no promises were ever made and you fire all the progressives from your campaign on day 1 after the election. If you are so sure of what she’d do, why cant you point to any compelling evidence except for your personal rosey best case interpretation or her vaguely given words?
In fairness I should probably tell you that I didn’t read past the first paragraph of that because at this point, I have absolutely no reason to take you seriously. The ad hominy attacks show you are not mature enough to discuss such nuanced topic. Also…
You illustrated my point perfectly and I honestly don’t think you could possible do a better job should this conversation continue.
People like yourself putting your fingers in your ears and making loud distracting noises (because you have no answers) is how these interactions always end.
Oh I have answers. I just tend to spend the time giving them to people who can hold a mature conversion where they disagree with someone.
Not people like you.
This is such a tired response at this point. If you really have no idea, go take a nap. Your country is better off without your help. When Americans do finally act, they’re not going to want you underfoot asking for directions.
But let’s be real- you already know full well.
What you’re really asking is “what would you have us do that requires very little work and doesn’t put me at any risk?”
Tired of not being able to answer a simple question? Yeah. I would be too if I kept trying to suggest people send themselves off to be slaughtered.