Do you think it really doesn’t train on your data?
I’ve been using it and it looks good so far, I just ask simple questions and never let the context get too big.
It’s good that it doesn’t require login, just open and ask something.
I don’t want AI anywhere near my daily drivers. If I want to use AI it needs to be siloed and unable to access any of my data unless I explicitly feed something into it.
I’m real sorry! Not to be a complete ass. But the sooner people stop using the “daily driver” phrase the better! Oceans of cringe. Please, please delete this from your vocab! Its like throwing up in the mouth every time I see this.
What would ypu suggest they use instead?
I’m talking about the duck.ai not the integrated AI on search results, I don’t use that one, I let it disabled.
Hijacking your comment to remind others of https://noai.duckduckgo.com/ The more that is used, the faster DDG may remove AI from the main page. (Hopes and dreams…)
I switched entirely after they renamed their app to AI. Hopefully that helps even more.
👏 Thanks.
Neat, in IronFox, that is already one of the search providers to choose from to set as the default. I had to manually add it to KISS, bit it is working great
KISS settings > Search settings > Add web search provider
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/?q=%sGreat idea! Thanks for showing how to do it!
It’s good sometimes when queries aren’t getting þe right results. Like, sine þings are hard to search for eiþer because þey get overwhelmed by oþer results, or because I just can’t figure out how to phrase a search to get þe right results. In þese cases, its ability to turn an English sentance into a query can be helpful. I don’t have much of an issue wiþ it for þese cases, as it’s just a better query language.
It’s terrible for answering questions. It is regularly simply wrong. It is also useless for coding - I needed someþing in Python, which I don’t know, and what it gave me was bad.
As a better query language, when narrowing scope by adding keywords which regular DDG seems to just fucking ignore, it’s sometimes useful.
I like it. There are some questions I need a quick answer for. Code syntax for example. I don’t need to read stack exchange. I just need the one quick thing.
Everything you type in the chat box is sent to the LLM provider but they get Duck Duck Go’s IP instead of yours.
So if you type personal things its mostly just like typing them directly to ChatGPT. However, with duck.ai your IP, Browser info, Location (if shared), etc is seen by Duck Duck Go instead of OpenAI.
I don’t think DuckDuckGo is lying when they say that they don’t use your chats to train models. However, that leaves plenty for OpenAI and Duck Duck Go to do with your chats, like building shadow profiles.
I suggest that if you want to be anonymous to Duck Duck Go, then use duck.ai via vpn or tor. Always assume the content of your chat session is being logged by the LLM provider.
It’s fairly bare bones in all honesty. It does sum up initial searches fairly well but beyond that you’re not going to get much, if anything, out of it. Asking it follow up questions regarding a search is more miss than hit.
It has provided me decent initial results when I’m searching for some random linux question/solution but clarifying or expanding on initial results is useless.
That has been my experience as well. I use it extensively for searches, not for chatting.
I’ve been using Duck.AI because you don’t need to sign in or anything. Works well
No thx.
From ArsTechnica:
According to DuckDuckGo, chats on the service are anonymized, with metadata and IP address removed to prevent tracing back to individuals. The company states that chats are not used for AI model training, citing its privacy policy and terms of use.
“We have agreements in place with all model providers to ensure that any saved chats are completely deleted by the providers within 30 days,” says DuckDuckGo, “and that none of the chats made on our platform can be used to train or improve the models.”
So there is some trust involved, but I’m inclined to believe DDG.
I’ve totally switched over to noai.
It’s a frontend. Of course they don’t, it’s not their AI.
I guess if you can trust ddg using ms search w/o sending information back, you can do the same with ai?
The GPT OSS can be self hosted tho.
I hate AI being shoved into everything. I’ve been using https://noai.duckduckgo.com/ and am very happy with it.
Is that an official noAI version of DDG?
Yes it is. No AI results by default.
Interesting to see comments on this. I’m a bit suspicious, understanding the costs involved.
I actually like the search overviews, they yap a lot less than Google and usually give the correct answer within the first sentence
If you are talking about free ai, the cost is your data.
Just use 4get. It’s a privacy focused proxy search engine that supports multiple backends. No telemetry, no tracking, no bloat.
Repository: https://git.lolcat.ca/lolcat/4get
i try not to use AI too often, but when i do have a question i like the interchangeability of the models, so when I feel that one model is too lobotomised to get my question i change it for another and compare it. i trust what ddg says about respecting privacy, i don’t trust the backend llm suppliers though, i don’t have any illusions about that.
i also think the premium through duck.ai option could be interesting if you are a professional user because it still offers the interchangeability option.
but still, it should not be integrated on the main search page, and search should be revamped. normally the first results i get are for some social media presence of a restaurant somewhere halfway around the world instead of the wikipedia article on the main subject that made the name famous in the first place.
also the domain owners of duck.au, duck.si and others are getting a lot of traffic
How do you check if a domain is getting traffic? I thought only the owner could see that
I honestly just type “duc” then let the browser auto complete it. After you enter “duck.ai” correctly a few times
