• MrMetaKopos@slrpnk.net
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    1. They are willing to work for less than a normal American living wage. This reduces the amount that an American can work for for the same job. Globalists love this.
    2. They bring and establish a different culture eroding a way of life that is considered American.

    Those are two things I think someone might say about immigrants. Additionally, there’s general disdain for the poor and many immigrants come here to escape worse poverty.

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      10 days ago

      also, the simple fact that more people looking for somewhere to live means less accessibility to that housing if supply is fixed

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        When has the housing supply ever been fixed, though? It’s always growing, and it should always be driven by demand.

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        The supply is “fixed” by the people who already have a big pile of cookies. Fight them, not the dude trying for a better life for his kids

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      In some instances, particularly in the American South and in some European cities, a large influx of immigrants has proven disruptive to local culture as well.

      But as the son of a roofer, I can confirm, #1 has historically been an issue. My dad’s business, when he was still able to roof houses, was often undercut by illegal crews giving lower bids.

      Of course the answer is a legit path to citizenship and resources to help people assimilate more easily and without fear, not Gestapo shit, but immigration, like abortion, is an issue that is purposely never resolved, and it never will be. This is a golden goose issue for Republicans, just like abortion is a golden goose issue for Democrats. They simply make too much money in donations and are able to grift all the public money they want in order to pretend it’s being solved, and therefore, have no real motivation to fix it.

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        just like abortion is a golden goose issue for Democrats.

        Not anymore. That’s also not an equivalence. One side rails against illegal immigrants while hiring them at the same time. The other side wants to protect a woman’s right to choose. You don’t see how those are different?

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      There’s also the fact that whether or not the undocumented are illegally voting in national elections, states currently receive representation in Congress based on their total population, not citizen population. Which is a strong motivator for blue sanctuary states and cities to want open borders, and for conservatives to push for legal deportations. This is a power struggle.

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        There’s also the fact that whether or not the undocumented are illegally voting in national elections

        They’re not.

        Also, California and New York have lost House seats in recent reapportionments despite having large undocumented populations, because people are moving out of those states. That counters your argument.

        There are a ton of illegal immigrants in red states, because people hire them there. It’s not some one-sided conspiracy to get more House representation.

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          I’d guess they’ll lose even more seats. Will housing become more affordable? It should, but it won’t.